Had a quick glance at some of her policies. This one caught my attention:
“Repeal the unconstitutional provisions of the National Defense Authorization Act that gives the president the power to indefinitely imprison and even assassinate American citizens without due process.”
Know what?
that, “They believe in this whole CO2-driven climate change nonsense. It’s a quite ludicrous theory to believe when the fundamental data has been repeatedly hidden from public view.”
Which part: that they believe in it, that it is nonsense, that it is quite ludicrous to believe in the absence of public data, some of these, all?
The one thing that The Shadow couldn’t hide.
How can you no it is nonsense if the data has not been revealed, also how can you know there is data that has not been revealed on the subject.
OK, I can’t physically be sure there is data that hasn’t been revealed - there might be no unadulterated temperature record and it could all be lies. But that would still make me right that it is nonsense.
I know it is nonsense because I’m familiar with the scientific challenges of making such an assessment, and how these so-called scientists have pretended those challenges don’t exist. One doesn’t need their data to understand their logical process and arguments, even if their data did show what they say, it would still be nonsense.
It’s a real shame, because apart from this the Green movement is actually the best thing going on right now.
I agree with you that it is possible that climate change is not the case. as even with thermally scoped satellites that only tells that the temperature is recently rising which could be something that happens often. And the whole looking at the ice to see is questionable as it is theory that backs that not evidence of it working in the past.
But then why would people want to lie about climate change what is the motive?
The climate is changing. That’s what climate does, inherently. Without change you wouldn’t even get climate in the first place. The satellite data mostly shows no warming, the sea level data shows some, it’s the ground temperature data sets that shows considerable warming, and the dispute about whether the urban heat island effect is being adequately considered in processing the raw temp data is a dispute that is shrouded in mystery, polarisation and mutual hostility.
The ice cores are a joke, such a small number of samples from such select places, interpreted via a mass of assumptions and guesswork. To build policy on such knowledge is absurd - you might as well use tea leaves. It is amusing that the area of the Antarctic that shows the most warming is also the area with the only concentration of climatologists on the whole continent.
All sorts of motives, depending on who we’re talking about. For the Green political candidates, particularly those who were socialists but found that persuading people to submit to enforced charity was difficult, they aren’t really lying - I think they are just suckers and opportunists. There was a big push on the whole CO2 catastrophic anthropogenic climate change idea, by mainstream media and mainstream politicians, around 2007-2009. Following climategate and the utter failure of the Copenhagen summit, they seem to have put the idea on the back burner. Terrorism has now made a comeback at ‘the biggest threat we face’, though some weeks it is also financial collapse.
The motive appears to be peak oil. When there’s no more growth in the system, because there’s no more surplus energy, but there is still a huge demand for growth and expectation of growth, you need to find ways to change people’s minds about it. Convincing them that man is a disease that’s going to destroy the planet unless we all consume a lot less energy and have lower economic expectations is the best way of doing it. Decarbonisation has fuck all to do with the atmosphere, it’s all about where the carbon is coming from in the first place, i.e. ‘fossil fuels’. If you read the full version of the Club of Rome’s ‘The Limits to Growth’ they do kinda say all of this, and that was back in the 1970s. Hence the rapid transfer of wealth to the private global financial system, who are all invested in oil in a massive way and need to shore up their position against the inevitable collapse of globalised trade. It’s an effort to manage the decline. There is no recovery, but they can’t tell you that, so basically it’s all fucked, but they can’t tell you that, and so they are coming up with all sorts of bullshit to blame and distract attention while they get on with looting the thing so they are sitting pretty when it all goes south. Or north, depending on which hemisphere you’re in.
hmmm… interesting thoughts thank you
where could i find such data?
Or you could just click your internal ignore button. Or the equivalent, an iPod and earbuds. Lol
It’ll be over soon It is election day…
I’m about to go and vote right now. If someone tries to intimidate me into voting for Romney…you’ll see it on the news.
They’ve hired a bunch of poll watchers to go to different precincts and make sure everyone has ID and all…and interestingly…80% of the people they’ve sent out are being assigned to places that are predominantly poor and black. Republicans trying an old KKK tactic? Nah they’d never do that…wait…I think that most of the KKK probably was republican.
Cast one for me too…
Will do…my friend lets me vote like 100 times. I got the hook up dog.
In that case I’d like you to vote for Romeny twice for me, and for Obama four times for me. The other 94 votes I want you to spread evenly between the available third-party candidates, whoever they are.
Can’t do the Romney thing. See when I wanted to go to college, I had a lot of money…so I spent it. Thousands and thousands of dollars that I got from a lawsuit where a drunken woman ran over me with a truck. Then when I got there they kept raising the costs every year, so I had to take out loans to cover it or I had to quit and not get my degree halfway through. Now…because some of my student loans don’t accrue interest under some conditions…Romney thinks that I’m a welfare moocher who doesn’t want to do anything for myself. I have personally paid no income tax in the last ten years at least. Which is probably also because there have been no legitimate jobs available that pay enough for me to stop doing what I’m doing and dedicate my time to them. If I stopped doing the things I do to promote my own financial well being…and instead just took a job and left that up to a company…I would almost certainly go into poverty. If I had to show my income and be taxed on all of it…I would probably get to take a lot less vacations. I’m just not going to live that way. I get the most I can get whatever way I can get it so long as it hurts no one. That’s my personal economic theory. You know when you bitch about a job and your boss tells you, “go and work someplace else…no one is making you do this…why not start your own thing and make your own money if you hate this job so much!?”. Well…that’s what I’ve done. And now I have to live my life in secret and make up stories about how I consult or something to get people to leave me alone about my source of income. It’s nuts dude only a criminal can thrive in this environment.
If he gets elected…he’s specifically coming after people like me. Poor people have nothing to give…he doesn’t want the rich people to have to give the amount of taxes they’re supposed to pay under the tax code. So to subsidize those tax breaks for capital gains makers…they’ve gotta get the money from someplace. If it’s not the poor, and it’s not the rich…then it’s me. They’re not dumb. They know how much cash is floating around out there in the world and they want it. Not to buy anything…but to force everyone to do what they want them to do because you’d have to to survive. Then they can use huge portions of the population on the threat of poverty or job loss to do all kinds of work for less than it’s worth…leaving the investors with a huge margin of profit so they can all buy yachts after they cut all those minimum wage checks.
I get it, I just think you’re mad voting for a man who takes pride in being a serial killer.
Who’s a serial killer? Obama? Man he’s killed less people than almost every American president. And I mean…part of being the strongest country in the world is killing people. That’s just politics man. That’d be like not voting for someone because they lied.
It isn’t so much the serial killing as the pride he takes - letting people know he has a kill list in his desk drawer, that sort of thing. He’s a real piece of shit.