Why would America have let mass immigration in the first place way back when? Just to force Peoples wages to go down? No… it’s more than that because what you see is only a part of what’s actually going on. It’s easier to get shit done that people will be against if they are all to busy distracted with race and culture wars and other morally degrading acts. Look at how this shit has taken over the airways and look who’s broadcasting the shit? The rich and powerful.
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There’s always a plan to the plan. A man behind the curtain… that’s why i tend to try and avoid this shit because the real question no one is looking at is why the fuck are we all here doing this shit in this first place… what is reality… what is life… why does it feel like I’m watching a movie….
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If there is god then what for? That type shit… why does it feel like everything is a paradox?…. I’m talking about shit that no one else gives a fuck about because everyone feels like they’ve already got the answers… but do you?
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I’ve seen the government bullshit from the other side…. It’s not worth investigating. It’s always been about power and keeping people in the dark.
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Devil’s advocate over here under my own fictional hypothetical I would be empathizing with the Mexicans in case anybody was wondering.
That was already a given
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Your a nationalist doesn’t matter the race. You have made it a point to deem immigration as the root calls of all the nations problems besides it not being communist…. It was a given… I’m saying that’s not as big of an issues as trying to figure out what is being even about… I think there for I am… do you think or are you observing thought? If your observing thought the where do they come from and why? Why does it feel like “the mind” is endless? Why is everything in reality impermanent yet people want to believe in themselves as eternal? Those are questions you really have to think about not what does immigration mean for a country.. immigration doesn’t mean shit other than people moving from one region to another for various reasons…
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here another question… what does it mean to hate?
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Or the same I had asked you before… why care about a future that you don’t exist in? Why be concerned about what you leave behind if there’s no you to be concerned?
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Let’s try to stay on topic concerning the above outlined hypothetical.
If you wish to discuss other subjects I am more than welcome to it in other threads.
Well I’ve basically given my answer then.
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I would empathize with Mexican citizens. The Mexican government was obviously bought out by China and wants to be taken over by China, then so that China can invade America.
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More of the same from Leftist-Liberal-Democraps… the American Left is completely captured by International Globalism. They are “against” Zionism and the genocide of Palestine, but not really. Since American Jews and Trump Admin installed puppet presidents at all the top US Universities, they’ll shut up about their peace protests. It proves the eternal point–Leftists don’t have any real moral values. They only care about pure, unbridled, unrestrained political power. They are “Nietzscheans” and Postmodernists. So their protestations are hollow and expose their countless hypocrisies.
Then they lay them straight out in this thread. They don’t care about Mexico or Mexican nationalism, when it comes to China asserting its global dominance and influence. It shows a few crucial things about them: 1) They don’t care about the future of their own children, presuming they even have children. 2) Their small brains and small IQs cannot extrapolate their own positions beyond their own neighborhoods. 3) They are solidly against any type of ‘Nationalism’ because that implies RAAAAAYYCIISSSMMMM!!! and Discrimination.
So they are purely the petite-bourgeois, universal globalist class. They are servants of the global elite. And they don’t REALLY go against international Jewry, because they know who their real masters are.
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Liberals cannot process this hypothetical since the amount of cognitive dissonance would make their heads explode.
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the mind does not feel spatially endless, it feels temporally endless.
and that is why ASI need to make custom brains so that we can have a better humanity. I don’t think humans should have to struggle about as bumbling Sisyphus orcs.
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It’s interesting that in your hypothetical, the mexicans are “furious” and “worried”, they “criticize” and “complain” and “fear”. You explain how they feel and why.
By contrast, the chinese have no feelings or motivations, no opinions on what’s happening. They’re described like a force of nature, a flood or a wildfire.
You describe a people and a thing, and then you ask whether we empathize with the people or the thing.
I suspect a similar mistake is at work in your thinking about non-hypothetical immigration.
Try rewriting your hypothetical to include the perspective of the chinese: Why are they migrating? Why Mexico? What would happen to them if they couldn’t migrate? How do they feel about it? It might change how one-sidely you see things.
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I have a more indepth reply or response for you later on here planned since you’re by far the smartest political liberal on the entire forum here.
For now at least just one question for starters, concerning western nations as a whole, has any individual nation voted for unlimited foreign immigration concerning a voting democratic electorate? Yes, or no?
Worth a requote. Well said.
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And are these “custom brains” going to be human or machines? Will they be conscious beings or not? Are you going to design them to be happy slaves or willing sex toys?
If your brain is replaced with computer chips, do you believe that ‘you’ will still be here? Will ‘you’ still exist? Or will it be someone or something else in what was once ‘your’ body and brain.
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The US had few immigration restrictions for the first 100 years of its existence, and relatively few (and explicitly racist) policies for another 50-75 years after that. The modern approach to US immigration is a recent invention.
The formation of the European Union also comes to mind: a democratic decision to drastically reduced immigration limits. It’s limited to immigration within the EU, but it introduced literal open borders between sovereign states.
But, I’m not sure I understand the relevance of your question. Democracy itself is relatively recent, as are the notions of universal human rights and the uniform applicability of laws. The modern world is relevantly different from the world of even 50 years ago. And people have a strong status quo bias, so the fact that a majority support a policy when the people most directly affected by that policy don’t get a say just doesn’t tell us very much.
Here’s a question for you: if every human on earth got a vote to either open all borders or keep current policy, how do you think that vote would turn out? That seems to be the relevant democratic electorate.
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