In plight of the rapist. Sex equals a more effective health.

How can we speak about sex without speaking about health first and foremost?

It has been proven that those who have sex are much more healthier than those who go without it for long periods of time not to mention those who have sex more have a better state of mental composure.

Perhaps rape has more to do with personal survival afterall more than anticipated… :-k

How shall we address this psychologically?

yes, sex makes people healthier, raping people who you don’t really know probably lowers your life-span opposed to making it higher infectious diseases, injury from nails, retribution, rape is not a very great social tool, as in people who engage in it are usually out-casted to begin with.

They could get comparable results from a tiny bit of exercise…

Rape is a behavior, which is adaptable under some circumstances (as in produces children(s) the conditions under which it happen and is beneficial are rare, as in a male is kicked out or banished from a tribe and on his way o ut rapes some people, or hunter-gatherer males frrom group A raid and rape people from group B.

You don’t see many ingroup males raping ingroup females, because under lots of situations its not healthier.


You constantly try and justify rape… What crime did the cops ‘accuse’ you of, exactly?

Thus my original post still stands.

Which is why you have to get to know the person thoroughly before you actually rape them by study and observance first.

For some people that is a turn on.

Which is why you try not to get caught.

For some men the woman doesn’t need to talk or be interacted with.

She just needs to be there physically for him.

And?

No sex in exercise…

Ahhh…But it can be beneficial. :wink:

Only if they are caught or if their tribe relatively disapproves of such behavior.

( Can think of plenty of examples where tribes through that of warfare raided women from their enemies and forced them against their own will to do things. Not uncommon.)

All a matter of circumstance really.

I’m frustrated can’t you tell? :stuck_out_tongue:

Nothing as of late largely because I am becoming more and more invisible.

One thing about being a outcasted ghost where nobody knows you and cares whether you live or die is that you can do practically anything that is if you are smart.

( everyone has to utilize the talents that is thrown at them if they are to ever get anywhere in life. [-X )

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Are you serious about this stuff or just trying to push buttons? Why would we have more empathy for the rapist than his victim, especially why would you, who have claimed to have empathy for no one? Who cares about the rapist’s “plight”?

Joker, I don’t know where you live, but where I live, it’s not a “kill or be killed world” as your signature purports. (There are still parts of the world where that holds true, but I doubt it does wherever you live.) The vast, vast majority of people have agreed that it is wrong and illegal to rob, rape and/or murder someone.

And these laws weren’t passed just to protect women; they also protect men. You benefit from those laws, too, whether you admit it or not.

It sounds like you want to turn back the evolutionary clock. We have evolved into societies for a reason, it is not contrary to nature; humans are part of nature, not outside of it. If we had no laws, no group dynamics, our species would’ve perished a long time ago.

Instead, it looks like nature has favored the smart, and we’ve figured out ways to overcome or control our self-destructive urges. Mostly.

So why don’t you just lay back and enjoy the assimilation?

Killing another human being was adaptive too. That doesn’t mean terribly much now in the slums where people die in order for another human being to establish their power in the social hierarchy.
I wholeheartedly agree that sex is beneficial to your health, but this can’t excuse rape on any account nor the person who carried it out. No matter how frustrating the absence of sex may be it is up to the human being to practice self constraint and find an outlet to relieve said stress. I do think that recognizing what you’ve stated is a very good first step to some sort of prevention however.
I don’t mean to sound angry with you, but I am with those who use the “I just couldn’t control myself” excuse. I have no sympathy for man as he has a choice. Empathy is another matter however…

Why do you ask for males to become females? Does the world need more of this???

Let’s empathize both with the “rapist” and the “victim” to figure out why sex is considered “rape” in the first place, shall we?

I’m very serious. Sexual frustration in my life has me thinking about rape quite a bit.

Why not?

Because I can understand his or her frustration.

( Women can be rapists too.)

I have no empathy for other people but I do make it a point to understand others simply because I like having knowledge about other people’s perception on life for my own benefit.

The rapist does…

It isn’t? Tell me about the ideal world that you live in… :laughing:

Oh?

Murder is perfectly legal so long as you do it for the benefit of society as a whole in the military under times of war or under law enforcement procedures. Murder is only illegal if you do it independently without society’s permission for your own individual selfish desires.

As long as you have society’s permission to wipe out a enemy village under times of war with a missle or to shoot a criminal running away from law enforcers followed by executing all the non-conforming non-assimilating individuals in prison by that of lethal injection in the eyes of society murder of other people can be a great utility.

Rape is also legal under litigation and courts of law by the procedures of segragating individuals into classes where the lower classes get financially raped everyday where they are forced physically to do meager servile occupations against there own will just to merely subsist in destitution.

Stealing is perfectly legal too. Haven’t you ever heard that old saying which says there is nothing more certain than death and taxes?

Don’t toy with me for I know more than what you have probally forgotten.

Don’t tell me what I benefit from especially when you know nothing about me.

There is no straight line of evolution. :laughing:

There is no absolute direction of evolution either. :laughing:

What you speak of is mere gibberish.

Your right there is a dynamic to our species. It is called the will to power or the will to survive.

It is guided by might, military force, violence, coercion, segragation and extortion.

Kill or be killed. Fight or be enslaved by another. Destroy your rivals first before they come to conquer you.

Your a naive little sheeple aren’t you?

I’m afraid I lack cowardice and the sort of weak like submissive behavior in contrast to yourself.

Why not?

Why should they?

Why can’t they relieve their stress by that of rape while at the same time improving their health by doing so?

I believe in biological determinism where we are determined to act in specific ways under extreme stress or scarcity.

People only have so much patience and restraint before it all runs out…

Anger followed by hatred and the desire of revenge is a perfectly natural attribute.

Jeez if you are sexually frustrated then rape a blow up doll or masterbate till you are sore. Are sure you are sexually frustrated or just frustrated by females? it would be easy to confuse the two. Rape is about conquering about dominate the object. Its not about sexuality as much. From reading your posts on this and on other subjects similar to this I would say that it is the female that frustrates you, not the lack of sex. Its typical to want to harm something that is harming you. If females frustrate you then you naturally would seek to dominate and harm them.Rape is the most historical common way to domainate a female and so with its legend it becomes an acceptable excuse in a mind that has been hurt by females. Dude try learning about women before you try harming them. It could be something that you are doing that makes it hard for women to let you near them mentally and physically.

Those practices lack a sort of intimacy and feeling that you can only get with another person. [-X

Both.

Sure is.

And if a hyena on the Kenyan plains was harrassing a lion it would be natural for that same lion to dominate and harm it.

What is your point?

Basically this post elaborates that rape is historically common. And? So what?

You assume that I haven’t. :laughing: Your naivety is astounding.

Or it could be that I don’t have enough money, recognition or status in society where I’m tired of playing bullshit games with other people where I have come to realize that there is one tactic that works really well as a alternative that all languages can understand universally which is the use of extreme violence. :-k

When cooperation, patience and hard work fails violence is the alternative.

How is rape intimate? its just two bodies physically touching thats it. That is not intimate , that is just getting your jollies.

If that is what you have learned about women then you have had pretty piss poor teachers or you were not paying attention.

My points are that you would rather be lazy and blame others for your ignorance. you wish to harm because it is easier. You wish to dominate because it is easier. Violence is easy and while some violence is necessary other violence is just plain weak, lazy and ignorant. Rape falls into the latter. There are idiot weakminded females that are just like you said. But not all, and I can pretty much tell you with confidence women that are not like that will not be found around women like that. Like tends to congregate around like. so quite learning from the idiots and thinking they are like all females. You are far too smart. Quit being lazy and weak you are far better than that. Look around for women that have brains and have lives. We exist I assure you.

It is intimate in that it’s with another person.

Of course the other person is unwilling in the act but for some people that doesn’t make it any less intimate.

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I see that since you can’t counter anything that I have said you feel the need to insult others in order to get your point around.

How ironic.

Well what can I say really? One of the highest ideals of people through innovation is the path of least resistance.

Points to previous post.

Pathetic moral judgements. Keep it coming…

Uh-uh.

Riight…

Thanks.

I’ll do whatever I have to for success of power and conquest. :wink:

You assume that I haven’t once again.

Really? Where?

I haven’t found one yet…

Actually lazy weak and ignorant are not being insulting here. Its just what is. To insult you I waould have had to say: You are a fucking lazy weak ignorant bastard. I did not say that because I do not think you are, I think that you are behaving that way because you do not see options. Behaving like one and being one are two different things. One behaves a certain way because no other option presents itself in a seeable or doable fashion. One is, if one has options and chooses to take the option that makes them a lazy weak ignorant bastard. its not a moral judgement nor even an ethical judgement it is just an observation through general study. you have not found any because you have given up, you have not found any because you do not think to change how you present yourself or change how you see. you expect women to behave in a certain way and you would like for them to change but, why should only they change or behave in a certain way , it takes two.

The plight of the thief:

Having more stuff is awesome and can help maintain health.

Obviously we should feel bad for thiefs because they’re trying to increase fitness, or because they want somthing they don’t have.

threads like this should be deleted, not because their offensive, but because no constructive debate, or conversation, could *EVER be had with them.

Oh come on Cyrene, they are atleast entertaining. :wink:

I like to call it the path of least resistance in contrast…whatever.

Too late, you just did. =P~

I can’t really reply to the rest of your post because it is fully of hasty over-generalizations and misguided assumptions.

So is the current wisdom in standard psychology. The standard explanation and your claim are based off of bullshit models of the human mind that have no evidence. While the people claiming that rape has a lot to do with sex, notice and point out massive trends in rapists.

Males without access to females of a certain age group are statistically most likely to rape/engage in violence.
All examples out of all animal studies.
the fact that rape victims statistically more often than not, are dressing ‘revealingly’ or at the very least that a full business suit compared to wearing barely nothing, influences rapist actions.
that males don’t randomly rape the ugliest people they can find even when it would be easiest.

etc etc etc.

This thing about ‘domination’ may be true, but only in-so-far that its an urge to *SEXUALLY dominate.

The thing with this thought that its to emotional dominate people (even if that may be part of it, its so tied up with sex that its impossible to seperate) its dangerous because its not true.

Trying to explain the risks of rape to females and saying ‘most cases are about domination’ is stupid, it underplays the risk… Trying to treat rapists based on their neeed to ‘emotionally dominate people’ can be a total failure, theres another dozen examples why what you’re claiming is stupid, and that you claiming it at all is massively irresponsible, because it gives the people at RISK of being raped, the wrong idea about the risks.

and joker, the ‘path of least resistance’ is not being born ugly, uncharismatic, and unable to travel the social world. Some people can sleep with many many chicks of all different sorts, without reverting to raping the people envolved, or feigning real interest or care for them either.

One would think you’d try and fix your pathetic social abiltities or horribly deformed face, before trying to convince the rest of us about the benefits of rape, as it provides almost none to most humans, who can get a mate anyway, and thousands of risks.

The reason most people don’t rape, is the risk is not porportionate to the reward, otherwise we’d be evolved to rape people constantly like some other animal species but we’re not.

The path of least resistance is relative to the one constructing it. It can be whatever one wants it to be…

Sure if they have the money, social status and recognition.

Naive assumption. You assumed that I haven’t done anything in order to change my plight.

You have to accept the possibility that in some people’s lives there is no beneficial options at all through the grounds of cooperation.

Not everyone has options my dear fellow… ( Not everyone is so fortunate.)

Yes many don’t for fear of retribution. Violence intolerated with even more violence.

However a history of rape within our species should tell you somthing on the lines of the psychology of risk taking.

Ahh, the old pot calling the kettle black routine :laughing: