In the Beginning Was the…Meaning?

In the Beginning Was the…Meaning?

The great truth of the nineteenth century was that produced by William Dilthey, which was what wo/man constantly strived for. ”It was “meaning” said Dilthey, meaning is the great truth about human nature. Everything that lives, lives by drawing together strands of experience as a basis for its action; to live is to act, to move forward into the world of experience…Meaning is the relationship between parts of experience.” Man does not do this drawing together on the basis of simple experience but on the basis of concepts. Man imposes symbolic categories of thought on raw experience. His conception of life determines the manner in which s/he values all of its parts.

Concludes Dilthey, meaning “is the comprehensive category through which life becomes comprehensible…Man is the meaning-creating animal.” Quote from “Beyond Alienation” Becker

Objectivists claim:

“Linguistic expressions and the concepts they express are symbolic structures, meaningless in themselves, that get their meaning via direct, unmediated correlation with things and categories in the actual world (or possible worlds).”

[b]SGCS (Second Generation Cognitive Science) claim that the underlying error in this comprehension of meaning is that meaning depends in no way upon the nature of the thinking, communication, and experience of the human agent. SGCS takes this to be the central problem with the objectivist approach.

The SGCS approach is far different; it attempts “to characterize meaning in terms of the nature of the organisms doing the thinking.”[/b]

Experience is construed in a broad sense; it is construed as “the totality of human experience and everything that plays a role in it—the nature of our bodies, our genetically inherited capacities, our modes of physical functioning in the world, our social organization, etc. In short, it takes as essential much of what is seen as irrelevant in the objectivist account”

Experimentalism, i.e. SGCS, characterizes meaning in terms of embodiment. Conceptual structure exists in a preconception form that is hardwired, it is genetically formed. This structure is in the form of basic-level categories, which are defined by our gestalt perception, and kinesthetic image schematic structures, which are simple structures that enter into our everyday bodily experience.

These preconceptual structures are directly meaningful because they “are directly and repeatedly experienced because of the nature of the body and its mode of functioning in our environment.”

Abstract conceptual structures are indirectly meaningful because they are understood due to their “systematic relationship to directly meaningful structures”.

[b]The word ‘meaning’ has at least two meanings. The meaning of something can be its definition as found in a dictionary; also the meaning of something can be what association it has with me. For example: the Iraq war had some meaning to me as an aware citizen of America but that same war has a great deal more meaning to me if my grandson joins the army and is sent to Iraq.

Is it possible for the word, i.e. language, to come before the meaning?[/b]

Quotes from “Women, fire, and Dangerous Things” by George Lakoff

I think we are both speaking about the same thing here. :wink:

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I figured that for each action of ours to occur, we must work from our own mental perspectives first.
We each perceive the world in a different way, unlike anyone else. It may be SIMILAR, however, it is not at all the same, nor will ever be so.
Yet, to develop our unique perspectives, we each undergo separate events throughout our life. These events, perhaps alone, make us who we are.
This is only a guess, however, a viewpoint.

To develop a certain emotion, one must undergo it. In order to undergo it, one must receive or bring it about from something external. For emotions are not a PART of Us. They simply BELONG to Us. And so they become ours, but not Us in Ourselves.

Considering it from that viewpoint, I believe a word is created - at least a majority of the time - when necessary alone.
However that is highly debatable and I can easily adjust to another viewpoint.

I need to think more. :-k Hehe.

Meaning is at first glance as you say a subjective abstract notion that is attributed to a particular individual. So does this mean that there is not objective meaning? I think that this is determined on how small or large you choose to percieve the universe. if you look outwards at the universe excluding yourself from it and asking what your oppinion means to the universe as a whole you will often find yourself sorely dissapointed. However if you accept that you are a part of the universe your oppinion becomes a part of a collection of oppinions. Yes no one oppinion is the same but there can be correlations and often when considering a particular even such as the war on iraq for example we will find that though everone has an oppinion they can nearly always be categorised into two camps. One for and one against. so in this way we can find unity in meaning, a similar understading shared by billions of others. Could it not be said then that meaningc or rather perpose, can be considered more objective in this sense, it could be said in fact that depending on what information you are trying to divulge on a subject is on the spectrum between the two.