India's Flirtation With Environmentalism Ends

How do you know the sense in which I mean it?

I’m not THAT asleep.

How about trying to get on topic (just for a change of pace)?

So you didn’t know the sense in which I meant it and you were just dodging the question? Then you say I’m off topic?

Weak.

I know that eventually you would have to default to some kind of disparagement, so why bother delaying it.

… and still off topic (and probably will be next post too).

James you resulted to disparagement. Then I said it was weak. Are you high or something?

Really James? Your off topic here in this thread, it’s a discussion about walls, in India and Mexico. Your only here cause you got your butt hurt, showed and and proven to be an idiot. Notice everyone with experience shooting weapons is mocking you. I’ll nominate you for a IgNoble Prize if you continue with your silliness. Honest, I’ll submit it.

Now YOU need to get back on topic. Do you have any opinion on the OP, or will you continue your lame, transparent, very very weak attacks trying to save your sense of identity as someone as superior? Cause your just a forum Corn Dog, nothing particularly insightful at all in any of your posts. You do yourself a extreme discredit every time you post your psuedo-science. You only identify it as your own domain because no one else wants to bother stooping down to your level of nonsense and sneering, knowitall egoism with no substance to it.

You don’t really believe that you are fit to hold a candle to James, do you? :laughing:
You enjoy the privilege of fools here, nobody takes you seriously, bigmouth.

I think most everyone is better than James actually.

He was twice slapped in the public rally by one of his angry supporters. Very recently, a lady party worker threw ink on his face for the corruption happening in the scheme when he was celebrating the success (so called) of this odd-even formula.

with love,
sanjay

with love,
sanjay

It doesn’t seem more evolved, US had that level of Corruption back in the 20s and 30s with dirty politicians and political machines. There are obvious parallels from our era then and India now.

What makes India hard to follow is the scale, you have too many politicians. I can’t usually see the same face more than once, unless it’s a really big huncho.

And a stupid autocrat is roughly equal to a west coast liberal. You more or less nailed the definition. Nancy Pelosi rules the bay area by divine right.

It is evolved. I tell you a very simple example of that.

Schedule castes/tribes were at the same level in India where blacks were in US. Both were not considered equal either socially or politically.

How much time US political system took to give voting right to blacks? Centuries, and after a lot of fight and struggle too. Right. And, do you know how much time Indian political system took to do the same? It did that when independent India wrote its constitution for the first time, when its democracy was merely two years old, and that happened almost seamlessly. Now, which political system is more mature and evolved?

The scale is also a factor. India has more than three time population/voters than US. That naturally means that it would have manytimes more leaders than US too. Secondly, even being not so well educated in formal education, India is a very politically aware country. Thirdly, and most importantly, each and every subset of Indian population has formed one or more political party to represent itself at the national level. In US terms, it translates into whites, hispanics, American Indians and blacks having their own separate party/parties, instead of US present two party system. You can imagine how crowded and complex US political system would become if that happens there too.

As far as the corruption is concerned, it happens everywhere, whether US or India. I do not think that India has more corruption than US. The difference is that many ways of corruption is now legalized is US. The prime example is lobbying, which is as good as corruption, at least how it is done nowdays in US. And, the amount goes high in billions every year. The scale of Indian corruption is just peanuts in comparison, not to mention that lobbying is still illegal and punishable in India, though it does not mean that it does not happen here at all, but neither at that scale nor officially but occasionally and behind closed doors only.

The difference in Indian and US corruption is that it is more widespread at small scale in India. You can call it petty corruption. Like, a policeman on traffic duty would let you go in the case of irregularities for some bucks, or a clerk in any govt office would not move your file unless you give him his unofficial official bribe. My guess is that does not happen in US.

with love,
sanjay

US

Your caste system is still very much in place. Your corruption is bad, light years ahead of most countries. Lets not even touch upon the issue of armed insurgency. Oh… your people aren’t trusted to have trial by jury, your own court system thinks the population is too immature for it.

This being said, there are far more parallels than differences in type of government, we both are former Indian colonies, and republics. India gave the vote cause most countries already went through that struggle… it’s like South Sudan claiming it’s super advance because it had computers in it’s government the first day it started… it’s a very new country, computers are common place.

My problem isn’t with the Indian republican system of government, but the difficulty of any big names on your English language media sticking out.

And we have lots of local parties too, just two big ones… though this election suggests we might break up into four… Democrats (Fascist Marxists), Republicans (Marxist Fascists), Tea Party and Socialist Party.

The race parties are not mainstream at all, near no visibility. Democrats have typically monopolized Jewish and African American votes, but that’s fast falling away, and it’s always had a large white contingent. Hispanics aren’t allowed to vote.

In America, “black face” is when a white actor paints their face black for a role instead of having a black actor play the role. It’s really, really racist.

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Blackface

And in India, they are really, really, racist. It helps them pass time while waiting at a bus stop.

They try blaiming Sunny Leone for all this corruption of values, but you know what I say… Her puss is the most honest actor in New Delhi politics today, never is ashamed or has anything to hide, always open for inspection. She documents all transactions on tape. Very popular with the people for this.

The cast system is yet in Indis but has US been got rid of racism complely? Secondly, you are forgetting that India is a young country, merely 68 years old while US is more than three centuries. And, in which way things are going, India will certainly lose its cast system within 2-3 more decades but US failed to get rid of white/black issue after centuries. Why?

As far as corruption is concerned, as I told you before, it is US that is light years ahead, not India. The problem is that US definition of corruption excludes many unwarranted practices like lobbying.

US race parties are very much in their infant stage. They do not have any noticeable effect on national scene right now. That time is yet to come there but we have seen this already in India.

With love,
Sanjay

Well, that seems to be a statement rather than argument, at least to me.

By the way, at how many bus stops have you been in India in person? Have you ever even visited India?

With love,
Sanjay

Moreno,

I can also quote many articles about the scale and magnitude of US lobbying. But, that does not change anything.

Yes, it is true that lobbying use to happen in India too. I did not deny that either.

Having said that, the scale of lobbying is mammoth in US. India had no comparison whatsoever with that. And, do not forget that it is a punishable crime in India.

With love,
Sanjay