Individuals can do no wrong. Everything is natural!

This is just one of my newest thoughts on morality which I am sure my amoral brethren will bask in after reading this thread and rightfully so.

In our modern or post-modern era however you may wish to view this industrial reality that we live in everything is considered natural. ( Atleast George Edward Moore seems to think so.)

Now even though I disagree whole heartedly with the understanding of the naturalistic fallacy let us assume that George Edward Moore is correct in saying that everything is natural.

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Natural_fallacy

In a world where atom bombs, nuclear sludge, plastic, and our hyperreality is natural like George Edward Moore says so where everything is considered natural then it could be assumed also that murder,rape, theft and violence must also be equally natural.

Therefore when the post-modernists say everything is natural using the naturalistic fallacy as their guide truely there can be no morality. Truely no dualistic notion of right and wrong can exist in a world where everything is natural.

Morality according to George Edward Moore is commiting the naturalistic fallacy.

So now what do those post-modernists have to say about morality? :laughing:

Some homework for our class on the subject of morality: ( Enjoy!)

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Natural_fallacy

Why does everything being natural imply that there can be no morality? This doesn’t seem to be what Moore is saying in the excerpt, although I must admit that I found the quotes a little confused. I guess I don’t see what the naturalistic fallacy has to do with the post-modern conceptions of ethics.

Nothing new here. “Everything is permitted” was around long before Post-Modernism

I think everything is natural. That there is no objective morality or purpose. But I appreciate and think others could and should appreciate reciprocal freedom and concern for the welfare of others.

Morality says only certain things deemed “right” can go along because they make a apeal to nature which they describe the nature of man as a moral one. Thus morality is a naturalistic fallacy.

Cosequently everything deemed morally wrong or evil they describe as being unnatural to man where they say such actions should not be permitted.

Now does this thread make sense to you?

Sure. I can go along with that.

Only if it is mutual. If it isn’t mutual then to hell with their welfare and terms of reciprocal freedom.

I can definately say that in our modern industrial era few things are ever mutual. Infact mutuality is almost dead in this era since it is deemed obsolete by the market place.

Appeal to nature.

[size=200]Morality in a nut shell![/size]

I got that far, I just think this conception of morality or ethics is outdated.

Outdated like how? You got me curious. :slight_smile:

Why does what is natural and what is considered right and wrong have to come in the same package?

So when Joker has his/her kids strung up and gutted like deer, there will be no response from him/her.

Good to know.

Your insults only prove that you lack character to make a effective response to my post.

Because they are. There simply is no getting around it and if there was I would be surprised.

( Although I have given it much thought and in the end I didn’t find anyway around it.)

I’m not sure I see why.

It’s technically not “natural” for women to have fake breasts, but the connection between the right and wrong of fake breasts is just not there for me.

Morality is dualistic. Morality inserts a dualistic imperative or dialectic in nature where none exists.

Morality’s usage of wrong is synonymous with the term unnatural.

I suppose it may be when some people use the term morality.

Maybe I’ve misunderstood YOUR take on all this. I’m assuming you hold the title of this thread as being true for you. If you don’t, my apologies. If you do, then I’ll stand by what I wrote as an attempt to get your to think of the effects of your position.

Maybe they deserved it? Or maybe Joker was feeling particularly violent? In either case, why is it deemed right or wrong? Oh yeah… here come the Moralists!