It hit me a while back that it is possible that either I and all others is a figment of your imagination, as is the world or you are a figment of my imagination. I could be dreaming at this very moment and you are all in my dream. Or I could be a schizophrenic and all you are the voices in my head and I am actually an occupant at an insanae assylum somewhere.
Maybe even perhaps this is not a true reality rather this is my dreamworld and when I go to sleep, I actually wake up. Makes you wonder…
I think most people wander upon this inquiry somewhere within their life. Personally, I don’t care much. I’m glad that I’m even able to dream in the first place, not to mention live. When I focus upon myself too much I get blinded by the grandeur of my own existence, and somehow forget to interact and live within the biosphere. In many ways, life is both dream and nightmare, but with reality, we play for keeps, as opposed to the remorseless sin binge one may experience within a dream.
Ever had a lucid dream?
If so,
Where do you think you are when you’re lucid dreaming?
I’m not sure you had a general question to your post, so I decided to just jot down some thoughts. Perhaps you were looking to commune rather than to argue.
P.S. Ever read about astral dynamics? There are some who have claimed some very interesting feats within this field. As I have not taken it seriously enough to pursue it, my knowledge is minimal, but I decided to mention this anyway.
Supposedly one may travel through multiple planes of ‘existence’ and may even wander upon ‘astral wildlife’ in their travels. Are these people crazy, having a great time, or both?
An idea occured to me some months ago concerning the eventual existance of “vacation machines” or “cognitive synaptic life simulators” or something like that. They would basically allow someone to hook into them and expirience a full lifetime in the course of a weekend. I remember seeing a star trek next generation episode when I was a kid that used this premise. The story line went as folows. Enterprise aproaches a strange object in space they get close to it and suddenly a beam shoots out and hits Picard in the forehead. He collapses and the scene changes to him on a planet with a wife and kids, and he lives about thirty years there. For the sake of brevity I’ll skip to the end. The sun of the planet he was on goes supernova and he awakes on the bridge of the enterprise, surrounded by the key characters. He becomes aware of what has happened and asks how ling he has been unconcious and they tell him 5 minutes or less I cant remember.
What if this life is just a simulation, and some of the people I know are just characters designed within the programs parameters, and some I actually do know in my “real” life within the real world. What if when I die, I wake up in a room full of unimaginable technology 500 years in the future, and wait 4 hours for my friends to finish, and then go to dinner. Beside being absolutely crazy it is an interesting idea.
I do agree with I-&-Zachariah that these thoughts are not very important. They are completely unprovable, and whether you are in a machine, dreaming, or in an institution for the insane, in the so called real world, is completely unimportant because all you have is that which is this life. This reality that you currently percieve, and which follows the laws of nature and physics. Fantasies like the ones you describe are what get you put into an insane asylum A.O.W.
You know, i don’t think they are crazy. We can’t judge them to be crazy. Are those native indians who had visions in the past, probably under the influence of some chemical substances, crazy ? Are those experiencing astral projection crazy ?
You know what, I think about the asme thing all of the time. Now of course the actual odds that all of life is just a figment of your imagination. Now of course i could be saying this so your subconscious will tell you that it is real and you aren’t really dreaming so you won’t be able to “wake up” from this dreaam and escape; just like “The Matrix” freaky huh. Now what wil really boggle your mind is if you think that you and I think the same thing, which one of us is the figment of an imagination and wich is real and just in a dream world? Anyway this feeling is quite common amongst geniuses and crazy people.
No, Parker, not at all. If the Dreamworld philosophy was true, which it could be in fact that I will never know any different because it is quite impossible to conduct an experiment to prove any different, then you, and everything you say IS part of the dream, and I could merely be replying to myself, a phsycological cluster f***. There is a theory behind this that we are all the same person on different planes of reality where the world which we know is the one all the planes meet. sort of like a grid considering our reality as the origin. It is almost pointless to think of it this way because there is no possible way to prove it, and that really screws weith you, not only not knowing, but not BEING able to know… ever.
What if? what if? what if? It doesn’t matter; it’s CHAOS, Baby! It doesn’t matter how you explain exisistence, just as long as your explaination is enjoyable and useful and you remember not to confuse the map with the terrain.
And just because you can’t prove something, i.e. the same person/different planes theory, doesn’t mean it can’t be useful. I mean, just look at the Christians and Muslims, it’s impossible to prove any of the crap they’re toting, but look how much influence they have.
I say always live like you’re awake, but think like you’re dreaming.
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who is to say that someone who thinks differently is “crazy” or not? surely, from his perspective, we are not thinking quite right. i am told of people who, when in solitary confinement, create a world of there own within there mind. it is real to them. who am i to contradict? i am not in there head. i do not know if it real or not.
reality is transient and subjective. this world seems real to most of us, yet so do our dreams. who is to say there is a difference? real here, real there. it does not matter. reality is whatever seems real at the moment because that is what we are forced to deal with at that time.
your theory sounds interesting. But that’s about it, dream world or no dream world. you cannot possibly prove or disprove this. I dislike the fairy tale side of some philosophical arguments.
We are God believing ourselves into existence. We are all peices of the same thing, the same soul, which is God. When we die, we go back to being a part of that which means that there is no heaven or hell, no sin or anything like that.
No one can see the total truth because by the time our brains are developed enough to think abstractly we have already been affected too much.
Our souls are the same, but our brains and bodies make us different. They give us different ways of thinking, personalities, beliefs, etc…
The meaning for this life is to get rid of lonliness…
if God is just out there, one single thought process. He/She/It is alone… maybe we/it/he is imagining this life to not be lonely anymore.