Introducing a new virtual currency -- the Gesellian pound

The Gesellian Pound (GP)-based monetary infrastructure

  1. Introduction

True economics (economics as it should be, that is, objectively logical economics) – can be very simple. Of course there can be many ways to architect it, and achieve the same purpose, i.e. enabling people to divide responsibilities through the use of money. One particularly convenient example of a true economic system is laid out in this white paper, which describes the micro & macro-economics of the Gesellian Pound, a new virtual money inspired by the midwar German monetary theorist Silvio Gesell. The GP is an example of a money which, being decentralized (true decentralization is one of the inevitable necessities of true economics), can truly be called a “people’s currency”.

What is a people’s currency?

Sounds like the U.S.S.R.? The Soviet Union’s currency was not truly decentralized. The Soviet economy was “state capitalism”, if indeed not “private capitalism”; but it was capitalism all the same, that ancient system which enforces “development” by making capital-lackers run a “rat race” under the duress of capital-owners (capitalists). Soviet currency was never called “people’s currency”. Of course the Chinese yuan may be called a “people’s currency”, but it is at best only a “Chinese people’s currency”… and at worst “the currency of firstly the ruling regime and secondly of the Chinese people”. In contrast the GP is truly a people’s currency, an international one at that).

Who is the GP for?
Everyone; like some other virtual currencies, the GP can be used by anyone irrespective of their nationalities. But those who have a “good” state-backed monetary infrastructure, as in the Scandinavian national regions, can afford to be slow in adopting it. In the early days, the GP is for those who lack a reliable monetary infrastructure, and of course, also for those who believe in its ethical superiority.

Colin McKay, the architect of “Deror”, a similar (i.e., people-oriented) currency (or shall we be technical and say “monetary infrastructure”), wrote: “In our ancient past, we traded between ourselves simply by drawing on our public reputation. We did favors for each other (credit), and memorized — later, recording on clay tokens — the I Owe You (debt). Our “currency” was our public Honour. Today, bankers use the magic of double-entry bookkeeping to create IOUs out of nothing. These digital tokens represent our IOU to the bank. Then, by a clever accounting trick — they let us borrow their IOUs as “money”… Why don’t we all do the same thing, and just lend to ourselves”?

That is what the GP enables.
With so many virtual currencies out there, why will this new currency, the GP, “gain currency”, so to speak?

A true people’s currency is that which enable people to live as ends in themselves and not just exist as means to the ends of others. There are “over 500 virtual currencies in existence”, but, despite the inadequacy of mainstream economics being a well-known fact – most such virtual currencies were designed without considering the works of forward-looking economists such as Silvio Gesell!

It looks as if the programmers behind these deficient virtual currencies were so preoccupied with their innovations (e.g.: Blockchain*), that they failed to study economics, failed to address the key question – what are the characteristics of an ideal currency, and its macroeconomic system? Naturally, then, nearly all modern virtual moneys (including Bitcoin) – seem to more or less resemble their nationalist fiat counterparts, except for a few minor improvements. They are not even decentralized! The GP is quite different – in, for example, how it is truly decentralized, see point 3.

  • As Nate said: “I don’t see any use case for Blockchain technology. It is a protocol designed for one purpose: to achieve probabilistic (assuming less than 50% centralization) consensus among hostile mutually non-trusting actors, many of whom are active in organized crime, most of whom are involved in obvious scams, and all of whom are motivated by millions of dollars of potential gain. To try to achieve trust, it not only doesn’t scale, it is designed to anti-scale - to aggressively consume computing and power resources in an attempt to remain decentralized. But that didn’t work. Economics of scale, an exponential technology race, greed, and the block mining reward designed in the protocol, have forced mining to consolidate into an oligopoly. There is no longer any point to the Blockchain. It consumes vast resources to generate no trust, because the economics of mining concentrates power in fewer and fewer hands. In one respect it’s working admirably well. It was designed to emulate the operations of capital markets on a rare commodity like gold, and it’s doing exactly what Marx pointed out over a century ago that capital always does: centralize power and reduce freedom. This is the opposite of what the Blockchain is claimed and believed to do, sure. But a technology is what it does, and it was designed to emulate capital accumulation, and that’s what it’s doing. It’s a great object lesson on why the free market cannot remain free without regulation, but not much more. If you have privacy and trust, you don’t need its vast inefficiency. Just use a database instead.”
  1. Some more characteristics of this infrastructure
    The GP-based ecosystem is:
    a) Gesellian (i.e., as per the principles laid out by Gesell, a “rot” is imposes on (exposed ) money, in order to:
    a. increase velocity of circulation, and, at the same time:
    b. disincentivize (thus extinctify) backward practices (usury, currency speculation, rentiership )
    And,
    b) Pro-transaction (or “Humanitarian”) – because the GP ecosystem is designed to provide some money to those who lack it. For 2 reasons: the obvious one being “So that they too can get themselves to a position where they can participate in the market”, the second being that “ordinary entrepreneurs, must not suffer due to lack of purchasing power of the population”.

The GP-based alternative economy (monetary infrastructure) provides a ‘welcome bonus’, an amount of 200 GPs; this sum, in the early days (before correction by the free market) is configured to equal around $1000. Once spent, it is irrecoverable and can only be earned back (one should use it to ‘learn how to fish’).

One of the key disadvantages of Bitcoin-like cryptocurrencies:

The trust of the users of the currency, which should ideally be placed on fellow users (as covered below) – is instead placed on “miners”; as Andolfatto notes, “the most critical and difficult-to-understand part of the Bitcoin protocol is how it prevents miners from exploiting the system”… For doing so, one needs a “PhD in computer science, cryptology, game theory…”

The GP is not a traditional currency that claims to have “intrinsic value” – indeed it can even be called a barter/exchange value measurement unit – a claim justified by its zero inflation mechanism, which limits “available money” (money in the users’ ‘pocket’ accounts) to an average 200 GPs per user.

  1. Decentralization
    With any popularly accepted currency, the minimum requirement is that its users must have faith in the issuer. Either we trust government; or we trust money-printing private companies, which both claim to ‘represent’ the people; but the ideal case is if we trust ourselves, i.e. the people trust themselves.

The GP is such; the people themselves “issue” currency. How does that work? Whenever a user joins the GP economy, money is automatically created in his account (by code), and thereby, he becomes the “issuer” of his own initial money. In addition to that, there is a monthly basic income that follows similarly egalitarian rules of dissemination; the money so created is the only money entering the ecosystem… In that sense, the GP ecosystem is a truly decentralized currency ecosystem.

To summarize the key aspect of the GP, that is, decentralization:
• Money created by modern central banks flows to everywhere except into the pockets of the citizenry; it flows into:
a. “Defense” sector
b. Extravagant, inefficient machineries of governance
c. “Too big to fail” mega-corporations
d. Repayment of debt to IMF, World Bank etc.
• In contrast, all money created in this system, flows directly, in a veritably egalitarian manner, into the pockets of its users. There are approximately zero fiscal/financial sector middlemen.

It is in this sense that the GP is truly decentralized. Erik Voorhees, author of Is Bitcoin Truly Decentralized?, observes: “It may appear that the claim of Bitcoin’s decentralization is a myth—an overstated feature conjured up as a bullet point in Bitcoin’s marketing brochure, but suspiciously not apparent in the actual product. Bitcoin has no central control: no central repository of information, no central management, and, crucially, no central point of failure”. However, the manner in which Bitcoins are disseminated – is not decentralized, which, in this context, must imply the following: - any currency that is created is distributed equally among all its users. This is where the GP differs from other virtual moneys. Bitcoin, in the context of true decentralization, can be called half-decentralized, somewhere midway between central bank fiat money and the GP.

The human economy is delicate, to be regulated minimally, not dominated for profit. The GP monetary infrastructure avoids quantitative regulatory activity; it is qualitative. Though the database used is in a location that might indeed be centralized, it’s open for all to observe, check, and secure.

The GP ecosystem is controlled by logical rules (e.g. the # process) that were necessary to achieve the system priorities. “Facilitating transactions” is the number 1 priority; zero inflation is a 2nd key priority.
4. Basic income

Finally, the wait is over! Basic income is included to facilitate transactions (that is the number 1 system priority). Poorer users of this ecosystem get up to 40 GPs every month depending on their need.

Auto-reproduction of savings (usury/interest), is not a priority; rather, the system is designed to disincentivize it.

“Facilitating savings” is a priority. Saving follows the principle prescribed by Gesell: money saved is taken out of circulation and put into an interest-free “savings account”. This is done to create a tangible barrier between money in circulation and money in savings, so as to enable 0 inflation (for inflation depends upon the total money in circulation, which total must therefore be controlled by this method).

  1. Two types of accounts, Quasi-Gesellian Rot, and Zero inflation
    The GP-based alternative economy provides two types of accounts for each user:
    A. Savings account – a latent or half-dead account, similar in some ways to the modern fixed deposit
    B. Pocket account – in contrast to the savings account, the pocket account is something like a live account
    The Zero Inflation Mechanism:
    Nearly a century ago Gesell’s ingenious solution was using demurrage money and stamp scrip in order to impose a rot on currency. No computers back then (thus this method proved fatally clumsy). Today it’s far easier to realize his concept. In accordance with his principle, funds in pocket, if greater than 200 GPs, will “rot” (be reduced by a small amount)… as a recurring operation adds 50 GP to each pocket account then multiplies the result by 4/5:
    ……………. (#)
    In other words:

Initial average money in pockets = 200 (as all new users are awarded 200 GP). Say, at any time, number of users = N.

As the # process (i.e. ) rolls over (as the month rolls over) – regarding the total money in all pockets (which initially equals N*200), we find that it transforms into:

(N x 200 + N x 50) x (4/5) …. Which is equal to nothing but N x 200!

Thus average of moneys in all pocket accounts will remain 200 (over the long term at least… read about auto-correction below. This auto-correction deviation results from how users shift money to and from savings, causing momentary, negligible, auto-corrected inflations or deflations – which are nevertheless small enough for us to term this economic system a zero-inflation system).

This logical rule (i.e., #) gives different upshots depending on whether “amount in pocket” is greater or less than 200; moneys in the various pockets will get different treatments, as illustrated below:

Before # after #

This is a natural result of the mathematical process (#).
(Note: above, “accounts” are live/pocket accounts, not savings accounts).
At a global level, # is auto-correcting: if average money in pockets is greater than 200, then it ensures that this shifts downwards to 200; if the same is less than 200, # forces a shift upwards towards 200.
This auto-correction, which is not contrived but inherent in the nature of the logical operation #, ensures zero inflation.

  1. Other specifications

i. Recommended balance in pocket = 200 GP (pocket money above 200 is eroded by rot).
ii. To protect excess funds from rot, simply transfer them to the savings account.
iii. The Rot resembles “negative interest” – it erodes the money of only such people whose pocket accounts tend to carry more than 200 GP (which means that they want instant purchasing power, or don’t care about relocating their pocket money to their savings accounts).
iv. As students of Gesellian theory will know, the rot mechanism is implemented to equalize the status of GPs and other worldly items, ownership of which causes “tax” losses to the owner (e.g.: food rots; unperishable items occupy pricey space etc.).
v. The money lost to rot, is entirely transferred, in needful measure, to the pockets of poor users (i.e. those who have less than 200 GP in pockets and nothing in savings); the amount thus received is just enough to help them sustain and participate in the economy. The poorest (0 GPs in pockets/savings) get the largest monthly stipend (= 40 GP).
vi. Purposefully, it takes some time for GPs to travel to and from one’s savings and pocket accounts.
vii. There is a penalty of 0.1% of transaction value, each time one transfers to or from pocket to savings account (this amount lands up with the admins, and will be used for good things).
viii. One can transfer to savings only if he has more than 200 GPs in his pocket.
ix. One can only transfer only up to N-200 (if N>200) to savings, where N is money in pocket.
x. If savings account carries an amount and pocket account dips to less than 200 GP because of some transaction, in that case money instantly “trickles” (goes from savings to pocket, until money in the pocket reaches 200 GP or savings is empty).

Ummmm…

No.

  1. You are asserting a artificial, non-fiat based currency in a are of computers… I can just make multiple accounts and trade between them, avoiding rot/entropy. Whoever has the most accounts have the most currency. Not therefore based on labor, but electronic harvesting. Smalltimr Investors in the currency who want to use this as their primary currency fall into the same idiot catagory, they becomes slaves to whatever firm or individual that exploits the ill administered feedback loops, some company in India or Tanzania running a few servers, with thousands of ghost accounts.

  2. It lacks the force of Fiat, isn’t recognized as legal tender for debt, and for the excellent reasons mentioned in 1. If I’m running a mobile Heating and Cooling business out of a van, and I got a shitload of this currency, but my “real” currency is approaching bankruptcy status, I’m utterly fucked. Stores will not accept my currency, for food. Gas stations won’t let me pump, suppliers will not let me buy. I will have the damnest time finding people able to sign contracts in GP, and when I do, all my supplies will come from $USD nor GD, so essentially I’m fueling the entire cost of a alien exchange rate, and when called to pay my debts and raxes, the judge will ask where my Dollars are, and will squint at me like I’m some sort of retarded fool when I present to him GPs. The tax collectors will confiscate whatever property I have, convert it to Dollars to pay for my debts, and insist I owe more. GP might be seized, but unlikely… it isn’t worth anything. It looks more like a money laundering/ tax fraud mechanism.

If your married, your family will starve, be plunged into poverty, and will ultimately leave you. You will be reduced to rags, and will be found begging in the streets, and people will give you $USD chump change out if disgusted pity, and you will thrust it back saying you only take GPs, and they will turn to you in absolute disgust at rejecting their charity for some retarded ideal, and will kick you hard in the stomach, then right hooking you in your face, knocking you out flat, naked and grooming in the streets, utterly rejected by society, your GPs lying untouched around you by passerbyers, a occasional pityful person tossing real currency coins at you in hopes than when you regain consciousness, you can find some soap and wash your dirty ass.

  1. If it isn’t Fiat, it isn’t currency. It has to be universally accepted to be of use for a business. If it isn’t, it will either be rejected, which is bad… or extensive alternative currency brokers will have to exist, trying to figure out what the bullshit exchange rates on a shadow currency is worth compared to others, and the fiat currencies. The obvious issue is, many of these currencies will be controlled by the same guys, in the third world, running multiple servers, making fake as he’ll transactions, playing each system off one another, without a real person being involved.

I use dollars not because I like it, but because I must, and that is why we collectively accept it.

Where is the link, so that I may sign up and get the money rolling…

Link coming soon…

hey Turd…
Valid concerns, of course i’ve thought of it too…:
Ghost or Clone accounts are prohibited… for each account is linked to a telephone number. So just one account for each user. No “he who has the most accounts, has the most currency” thing…

Your idea " I can just make multiple accounts and trade between them, avoiding rot/entropy" is seemingly subconsciously influenced by the valid idea reg. the phenomenon of rich Americans avoiding taxes by moving them $s to the cayman islands etc… though it is illogical, since one cannot avoid rot by moving his GPs into another account, as rot strikes every (pocket) account at the same time every month (and there is no withdrawal).

Excellent? Quite the opposite. You’re being overly pessimistic, even reactionary. Though i like it, someone must bring out these points too, thank you and keep doing it.

And you can make a long list. Of course it takes time for a currency to gain currency. But if the people get enlightened and accept it, that is when it “gains currency”.
Bitcoin isn’t accepted because it is illogical. The GP is, relative to other currencies, perfectly logical. Of course the fools can continue to use fiat and pay consent to their own exploitation, but no longer is everyone a fool.
Information age, dude.
The GP is a monetary infrastructure, meant to serve, for example, (Gesellian or anti-nationalist) intellectuals, communes of the enlightened, the unemployed, people of the so-called “PIGS nations” etc., who anyway don’t have a functional monetary infrastructure… so don’t worry about how you say:

So you’re assuming that no farmer can ever get enlightened enough to accept GPs…? How about this situation: 100 unemployed people , all agree to use GPs, 15 of them become farmers in some barren wastelands and the rest make them houses etc. … induce growth of a fair economy (as an ideal money system should work)…

“Debts”…??? That’s only for fiatlubbers.

Taxes,… haha ! No need for ancien regime style parasitism, dude… the nationalist “economics” theories of Adam Smith were wrong… the GP will allow even (ex-) nationalists to live lives of ease, so they needn’t resort to parasitism anymore…

you have faith in the herd eh… if we keep doing that we’ll all just be slaves to the supreme idiocy of nationalism, central bank despotism, “trickle down” economics etc… the millennials aren’t going to accept that… not in the information age… the system we (me, Silvio Gesell etc.) developed, imperfect though it may be at the start, will become perfect, and in any case it is a path to the future… the first step must be taken.

I thought you’d know better than to just be yet another defender of the usurious current economic system, which has created various absurdities such as the ludicrous urban rural divide, the preposterous 1% vs. 99% divide, utter worldwide poverty, chronic warfare, and a whole lot of other ills (see attached pic*)… yet you defend it as if it is synonymous with perfection in your book.

I do not have faith in the herd, I have faith in the American depot system that large national grocery chains like Kroger’s entered into during the great depression. It’s how we handle buying and selling in America for the most part. I can bypass this in part, like on Amazon.com by choosing small sellers over their prime program, but even those small sellers (oftentimes just a factory in China) use depots, or use a model like the Japanese Shogo Shosha.

And no, my concern isn’t influenced by rich putting their money in the Cayman islands. It is from real life occurrences, that I’m aware of on the conscious level, of businessmen or a few somewhat rich investors in the world mining bitcoins.

You saying phone numbers doesn’t reassure me at all. What is to stop someone from exploiting Nigerian Telecomm regulations, getting 50,000 phone numbers for $50,000 bucks in a area code all their own, off the books, or fuck, blatantly in the open, and farming this? Or randomly buying up phone numbers around the world? Or starting their own phone company?

What… go to a judge and say it isn’t fair? Demand UN regulation? We already do that for our own, better established currencies, minus the need to police buying phone numbers.

What if I decide to get a call forwarding service, and have just 1 cellphone, but potentially 50-100 extensions, all going back to just one cellphone? A lot of small businesses do this, they pay $30-50 bucks for a call forwarding service to make it appear their business is a large, real business with a operator, multiple departments. Your just some guy running a business out of your house.

I’m not too impressed. It’s just gonna be like guts with Bitcoins farming this stuff. Only thing you can buy is drugs, or webcam girls stripping. Worst, if your a drug dealer or webcam girl, all you can buy is the other… great if your a druggie webcam girl, or a porn addicted druggie, but bad for anyone else. Can I buy a new Jack hammer, or groceries, or pay my rent? Nope, not unless your really, really, really lucky.

And sending hobos out into the wilderness to become farmers isn’t that great of a idea. Might make more sense in India, given how widespread agricultural knowledge is, but in states not dominated by rural, family style agriculture, your more likely to have a bunch of hobos completely failing at the enterprise, needing fed in the meantime not knowing how to irrigate or treat the soil, do pest control, timely harvest and selling by regulation in markets, how to fertalize the soil and handle crop rotation, and many don’t break, heck, many won’t achieve, a level of substance for a very long time. Your better off not involving them in a alternative currency if you want them to farm, and just focus on the defacto currency, getting them used to the idea of farming, showing them techniques, providing them with equipment and temporary shelters.

How long do you think most Westerners will last in a overgrown field that’s been feral for 20 years, trees are sprouting all over, with nothing but a hand hie, some seeds, and a phone number for a alternative currency account? First month would be spent looking for water shelter… if they are lucky, immediately accessible on the property, if not… fuck. Then they will need shelter, which will be a stolen tarp and a pile of rocks built roughly in the shape of a fireplace. Maybe a old sofa sitting under the tarp and fireplace, or the sofa exposed to sun and rain…

A hole to shit in, dug with said hole.

30 feet of field dug for carrots. Carrots all are prematurely. Hobo horribly sick from not washing them in safe water.

Nooo… Hobos needs some guidance and help setting up a farm. A experienced farmer less guidance, but still help. This includes cash infusions. We have a food stamp program, another limited Fiat currency (it is reimbursed by our department of agriculture on approved purchases for farm related products, not just for the poor to buy food seemingly for free) that intercepts this failing in the system. Our farms in America are much better producers as a result than most nations farms, and we can farm in difficult spots most nations wouldn’t bother with. Good agriculture is very intellectually and currency intensive, has strong roots in western philosophy.

The impending end of nationalism, a logical result of all the innovations not excluding this system/monetary infrastructure that we discuss, precludes things like the Nigerian Telecom regulation loophole you mention.

Moreover, if everyone has enough Gesellian “free money” to do what they want, then why will they scam and fraud in any case? People do such things only if many are stricken by the poverty caused by capitalism, which poverty, in turn, causes organized crime (the most severe manifestation of which is the herdism seen in nationalism and warfare).

Well, yeah, exactly… outlaw such activities. Police those seeking more than one numbers. Regulate phone companies. UN sanctions against your organized nationalist phone mafia. All good solutions to such problems as you mention.

there’s no “mining” in the GP economy, and potential problems will be overcome with the help of mankind’s sense of humaneness ( for all the ills and imperfections of this world… blame not nature’s creation, man’s DNA; blame capitalism for all ills. And for all that is good, e.g.: information age etc., it is good not because of capitalism, but despite it, a very important difference – it is good because of man’s innate greatness, the glory of our race… small-minded people are results of capitalism and its paranoid “education” system that converts them into infantile slaves, the “man-childs”, the ageing adolescents described by Camus).

hey man, stop comparing my currency’s potential milieu, to Bitcoin’s milieu. It’s not just a currency that i’m working on, but an entire marketplace, a platform for people to contractually collaborate directly with each other.

This platform element, which I hadn’t disclosed to you before now, should probably be enough to secure the luck aspect of things

Come on Turd, that “intellectual farming linked to western philosophy” (GM foods, pesticides, herbicides etc.) is merely another aspect of the absurd. What is ideal, is a return to nature, to forests interspersed with individualist rather than herdist, and thus happy and long-lived humans. This platform that soon i’m about to launch, is a complete economic platform – not just a money marketplace, not just a human marketplace, but a repository of knowledge as well: it is a place where people define projects, and also copy paste projects others have defined. Successful projects. So the spread of logical information, and knowledge of the best, Fukuokan pro-forest way of farming, will spread. It’s a platform where you can call support – 100 people from your locality say – to plant a forest or two in just one weekend. The era of capitalist bosses ordering about hobos to do the dirty work is over. The very concept of a hobo, or a poor guy, or of people using other people as means to ends – is about to end.

Hope all in this forum are familiar with Gesell:

youtube.com/watch?v=hxdPIOUTd2k

Age of nationalism is hardly coming to a end, it isn’t linked to any monetary policy, or even capitalism persay. We started in the late medieval with Gold and Silver coinage, Marco Polo pioneered long distance precious diamond trade, but the bulk of wealth was still based on agricultural stores. Subverting a currency won’t change nation-state status, nor will larger confederations, it isn’t a inevitability that we will gain one currency internationally, even if we do someday fall under one world government.

I’m doubting your scheme will be attractive enough to governments so as to want to regulate it, given the entropy effect- in order to have use, instead of taxation and treasury holdings, we would have to go back to levies of persons to get them working, given we wouldn’t be able to sort and deliver wealth to targeted areas at targeted times.

Department of Transportation could only build a highway in the “now” of funding, and not off last years currency stores in the treasury, sitting idle in the bank. I’m not a big Kenysian Economics fan, but a lot of the expectations of government planners have would be held meaningless if the adhere to that school of economic planning for large construction projects.

How are we supposed to fund long term, massive projects? Like a continental road and rail network, over decades, trying to supply the workers with machinery, wages high enough yo attract them for long term employment, and match fluctuations in market prices… our market goods would still be free floating to supply and demand necessities, but the only time we could supply a workforce at maximum efficiency , effort to dollar ration, would be seasonal, and this currency would be a massive deincentive to invest in complex machinery.

Why have 100 skilled highway workers use complex machines, operating in a budget set years in advance, with projects set at times decades in advance (they are just now building a highway nearby that they wanted to do when I was a kid)… if you can’t save the money up, ear mark it? You won’t know what you have till near time to build, and it would be cheaper to have 1000 guys pick at the roads with pick axes than to do better quality and more efficient work with a professional crew. Less backbreaking, high skill level, etc. We dropped in the west the concept of the work levy back during the American Revolutionary and French Revolutionary Wars… see Tocquerville’s “The Old Regiem and the French Revolution”. Why would we want to go back? It was a very shitty system, I don’t want to be doing forced community services for three months of the year in order to pay my taxes, pounding big rocks into gravel, adding tar to make asphalt, smoothing it out sunburnt on a dirt road pounded out by my neighbors a week prior. Let the roadcrews do that. This GP would focus too heavily on the brute force of shovel ready projects right now. Your merely adding a rather pointless anarchist dimension to this, saying we can have levies without oversight. Yaaaaaa! Oh wait… Noooooo!

How will OSHA, legal regulations, environmental regulations fit into this? Just because someone thinks “be great to build this here” it doesn’t translate to a good idea. We would be losing the oversight of banks in financing large loans, to see if the endeavor was even worthwhile, as in returning capital returns. If it isn’t, bank isn’t forking over money. In your system anyone manipulating the currency flow could start a great yet ultimately retarded and most pointless collaborative project. Today, we mostly do this in Art or Media, but are purely pragmatic and farsighted when it cones to roads, sewage, funding the military, launching satellites that cost a absurd amount of money. Are we all supposed to combine our hammers and sicles together, and concentrate a mass currency flow towards NASA or the Navy for when it needs to launch a new satellite, not expected to make profits for years, in a bug to enter into a competitive market?

How will the balance between monopolies and technological sophistication that has a high R&D hurdle and marketing delay on profits be handled? Our current interest based, fiat based currencies handle this well, through long term investments. Your system encourages entropy collapse of earmarked funds built up over time. Laying down several million dollars of fiber optic cable on a rural route wouldn’t happen, much less branching off that route in 5, 10, 20 years to new, even lower populated areas. These are the concerns that a modern nation state with fiat currency, double balanced debt to surplus ratios deal with, in planning services long term. No incentive whatsoever to undertake such tasks, if anything the backlash between rural access and urban access would be more severe than the inequalities currently are. Under the fiat system, we can have Parliaments debate allocation of capital for these out reaches, under your system, I don’t see this happening, short of a massive pointless as fuck work frenzy built on the principles of a pyramid scam just to project some of this money outside the immediate urbanized enclave.

And of course there will be mining. We didn’t evolve for the use of monetary currency. I’ve been reading “The Autobiography of Benvenuto Celleni”, he seemed to be a truly Nietzsche an psychopath (may be the archetype actually, read in a link he read the book), a Renaissance artist, Goldsmith… He appeared primarily motivated for the fame, and sodomy… and actively went about killing any of his competitors. He was the kind of psychopath who loved the fame but abhored the negative spotlight, got off telling his tale of his murders and tortures. People don’t play by any one larger playbook in economics, some- too damn many, go out of their way to undermine any system presented to them, exploiting it’s weakest points. Some, like this artist, may even still produce products, but all too many don’t make anything of value, once they learn to exploit a system, they turn slothful and stupid minded, like Mr. Reasonable. Society gets Zero benefit from him, he is a parasite.

People will figure out a way to mine the currency, by undermining your safeguards. It is impossible to build a foolproof currency, but one thing we see in common for all alternative currencies is that they attract a bunch of unproductive lunatics, or criminals as the mainsway in the beginning.

This all being said, I think this would be a good currency for prisons doing Work Release, where the munipalities that the crime took place in could sentence someone to work on a range of projects… You have 50 projects earmarked needing done by the work at home population, they prove it is getting done by having GPS and sign up sheets , and work at their own pace, everyone pain inbloc for that unit of labor. Lazy workers booted by vote, if you can’t “repay” the milunicipality, back to jail. If your not doing it often enough, your hours degrade and you eventually go back to jail. I’ve seen guys on community service drag it out to near nothing per week on their paper checklists, knowing they are too poor to pay the debt, and the cost of the county/city to keep checking on their progress with court updates too costly, judges tend to tell them to fuck off, community service over after so many poor performances. If a lot of our misdemeanor fines was converted to this, wouldn’t be a bad thing, especially if given the option to cash out for a cash equivalent, rate established by the city.

I wouldn’t dare expand it beyond a penal currency though, and never beyond the jurisdiction of a warden, or local city manager or judge, never state/province or nation wide.

Turd, we who can afford to sit and theorize are the privileged few. Look at most of our world. Look at Africa. It’s all a prison anyway.

Thus you finally admit that this thing can improve the lot of this prison-world of ours … and it can! Read about the miracle of Worgl in the middle of the great depression.
lietaer.com/2010/03/the-worgl-experiment/

Just one thing, my system is built to function as a system of equals, to function without prison-masters…

Also, i hope YOU of all people don’t bat for the dinosaur that is nationalism. Leave that to our world’s many small-minded herdists. Nationalism or any other form of groupism has no future in the Information Age…
(but don’t call me a globalist in the avg. modern sense of the term).

To be sure, as in the times of ancient Atlantis – America and Afroeurasia will once again come under one (that will be merely the true neutral face of objective logic… rather than a Stalinist or Hitlerist dictatorship:
youtube.com/watch?v=Pg2np37JNEg
).