Intuitive Reasoning

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Have you ever seen an old detective show where the veteran detective was “Going with his gut?” Being a detective, he may have had some life and death scrapes. Being a detective, he made decisions that may brings justice, or ruins someone’s life. He had to make good decisions or judgements. Overtime, he may have ended up with a sense of things.

A farmer around 1900 or so, his livelihood may have depended on the rain. He may have ended up with a gut feeling or sense about things. He could feel the rain in his bones. He had his Farmer Almanac and a long career in farming. He could read signs in the sky, and the weather, and just “feel” when it was going to be wet or dry.

In Christianity, a man’s body is a temple. Jesus lives in a man through his Holy Spirit. Part of learning to talk to God is intuitive. It may have started with a man learning to trust his gut…in an understanding of growing in faith, a personal relationship with God.

A lot of people, they went to college, and they became book smart…or were supposed to be book smart. They may have received an education taught to them by professors who hadn’t participated in an industry for decades. The professors taught them how the industry “Should be.” When someone actually gets to their job, they may have found out their professors were full of crap, and there was nothing like having real experience in something.

A lot of people are book smart in The Bible. They may have never read the Bible, but they were still opinionated about it. What is the context of things?

2 Consider it pure joy, my brothers and sisters,[a] whenever you face trials of many kinds, 3 because you know that the testing of your faith produces perseverance. 4 Let perseverance finish its work so that you may be mature and complete, not lacking anything. (James 1:2-4)

It is good to have Bible knowledge. Someone doesn’t really know how it works till they start living it.

Intuitive. In a sport, like football or basketball or whatever, someone may have drilled movements and plays. They were being taught muscle memory so that when it was game time, everything came naturally and smoothly. Overthinking may hurt someone’s performance. An athlete learns to react in the moment. This is similar to Biblical Intuitive reasoning.

Faith is evidence of things unseen. (Hebrews 11:1)

Man is married. He goes to work, and works a long day. He is tired some at the end of the day. He drives home and finds his house clean and dinner on the table. He didn’t see his wife clean all day or cook. He had evidence of things unseen.

When her husband came home, he came home on time, and came home with his full paycheck, and didn’t smell like a bar, and have a pocket full of pull tabs. She received evidence of things unseen.

Overtime, husband and wife, they may have grown in faith, a knowledgeable dependence with one another. As long as neither did anything to give reason to doubt, this relationship grows. Doubt and fear kill faith.

This would be Biblical Intuitive Reasoning.

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What constitutes “Reason to Doubt?”

There are Spiritual Concepts. “Behind Closed Doors” would be a particular Spiritual Concept. In 1960, in the US, it was taboo for a woman to be Behind Closed Doors with a man who was not her husband or close family. Why?

Jerry and Samantha are married for three years. They have been doing well. It is New Years, and they are going to the New Years Eve party at Jerry’s work.

Jody is Jerry work friend. Jody has a secret fetish for being with other men’s wives. Jody plots a scheme. Jody works to get Jerry really drunk, and otherwise occupied. He works Samantha into a room, alone, and closes the door. What happens behind closed doors?

Jerry…he senses something is wrong, and he starts looking for Samantha. He sees Jody walk out of a room, and Samantha about five minutes later. Jerry confronts Samantha about what happened. Samantha tells Jerry “You should trust more.” Given Jerry swallowed that, given Jerry just took “You should trust more,” Jerry was now in a blind faith, and in danger of Samantha losing respect for him.

Jody being in a room alone, behind a closed door, with another man’s wife, he gave “Reason to doubt,” in Jerry and Samantha’s marriage, and broke their faith. Doubt and fear kill faith.

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Intuition is your subconscious picking up on a pattern that it has seen and stored away.

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In someone’s subconscious, there may have been spirits. Which spirits? Christian societies value virgin brides. Someone in a Christian society was being guided towards growing in faith and being right with God. Given someone was in sexual immorality, they were separate from God. There may have been “Spirits Not-God” in someone’s unconscious or shadow. Someone’s intuitive may have been off. It is more than just a pattern recognition.

Given a man was at work, and something suddenly happened with his wife, maybe she suddenly entered labor, he suddenly has an intuitive feeling about it.

In the 1950’s, a lot of men may have gone with their gut for a lot of things. It was a time of opportunity. Into the 1960’s, there was a sexual revolution, and a lot of people fell into debauchery. Going with your gut wasn’t the same.

Part of intuitive reasoning, as I have been explaining it, has to do with seeing “Conspiracy.” Politics, for example, is conspiracy. Conspiracy is where two or more people, behind closed doors, they were scheming to do evil. A man walking around on the street, was he about to be grifted? Being aware of evil is healthy. Being paranoid or ending up having “Pet Conspiracies” someone really needed to be true for some reason, or getting into Conspiracy Theory…that is unhealthy. Doubt and fear kill faith.

Being aware of evil is healthy. Being blind and deaf, believing everyone is basically good, that may make someone a chump or a target.

Dr. Carl Jung talked about the Unconscious or the Shadow. Dr Jung was a Occult Seer. He was off and wrong. There was “A Something” to what he talked about. It was spiritually relevant, although, off, missing the mark. In someone’s Unconscious or Shadow, there were spirits. Which spirits?

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Scenario: A man is at work. His wife was pregnant. He has a gut feeling that she suddenly entered labor. He calls home, and finds out that his gut feeling was correct.

A man’s body is a temple. Jesus lives in a man through his Holy Spirit. A man was seeking God with all his heart and soul and strength and mind. He had been going to Church. He had been working to grow in faith with God, a knowledgeable dependence.

Given a man has these “Gut feelings” many times, regarding a variety of day to day things, and is correct a lot, he may have been growing in faith. He was testing the spirits. Not testing God. Testing the spirits. Doubt and fear kill faith. Given he was in doubt or fearful of things he was receiving, he could end up a mess or off.

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A little bit about me and where I am coming from -

I was a life long Christian. I was from a Non-Denominational-Baptist background. I ended up receiving a calling around the age of 30. (Luke 3:23) I have been working for God full time for over a decade. One of the things I do is work as God’s detective, looking to find “things of God” that were lost, stolen or “Occulted.”

To Occult - To hide away understanding.

Oxford, Harvard, and Yale, they were all Christian Institutions. There are not in 2026. Harvard made an Atheist its Head Chaplin. There were men with a lot of Bible knowledge at such places. Smart men. What happened? Was someone Skull and Bones, with ties to Freemasonry, working to steal away understanding? That is part of what I have fought against, and through, working for God.

Prior to working for God, I had been a prodigal son. I was in sin, and I was wrong. I received a calling from God, and ended up having a lot of interesting spiritual experiences. Afterwards…after said spiritual experiences, I may have found examples where someone else had experienced something similar, or where something was relevant but off. I have liked Fr Ripperger, a Catholic Exorcist, with free online lectures.

Skimming through a synopsis of Dr Carl Jung, I can see what he was getting at. I don’t read his books, or delve too deep into it. Just skimming through Dr. Jung’s work, I can see that he was Spiritually Relevant, and had delved into something. It just made sense to me. Dr Carl Jung was off, and defining somethings wrong. There was something to it.

I started out as Non-Denominational. Gaining Spiritual Understanding, it brought me closer to being a Traditional Catholic without ever being one. There is a Tradition of Revelation. Why isn’t Theology just part of Philosophy and Metaphysics? Men like Thomas Aquinas separated Theology from Philosophy. Theology is Revelation. Philosophy is Greek Reason. To be in Revelation, and in understanding of The Spiritual, someone needs to align. (Philippians 2:2) They need to align with the Prophets of the Bible. They need to align with certain Saints, or being in alignment with the Prophets, a man may find somethings in common with certain Saints.

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How do you ‘work for God’, exactly?

And, who and/or what even is this God Thing, exactly, that you purportedly work for?

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A man’s body is a temple. Jesus lives in a man through his Holy Spirit.

In the Old Testament, God spoke “THROUGH,” the Prophets. Ezekiel, Jeremiah, Isaiah, and so on, God spoke “THROUGH” them. The Prophets do not contradict each other. Given God spoke through someone, what was spoken came true. God is Honorable. God does not lie. The Bible is The WORD of God.

How does that work, that is, God speaking through someone?

In Christianity, anyone may have potentially grown in faith and been speaking words of God, in an understanding of The Power of the Tongue. (Matthew 13:15-17) Anyone may have grown in Faith as Apostle Paul did. Who is in authority and why? Given the wrong people were in authority, or people in authority, in The Church, were doing wrong, someone who grew in faith past a certain point, people in authority may be jealous or envious or hostile. There were some interesting clashes between Popes and Emperors and Patriarchs. There may have been similar clashes on a lower level, around Churches with Pastor and Bishops and so on, through history.

Prophet Ezekiel, he may have been diagnosed with Schizophrenia by modern Psychology. Modern Psychology, as a discipline, was created by, and in, Western Occultism like Dr Freud or Dr Jung delving into occultism. A lot of what has been going on in the mind, may have been spiritual. That understanding was hidden away.

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Given we are comparing and contrasting mysticism or spiritualism in honest ways, we may be able to see God. Comparing and contrasting Mysticism, “The Will” is a major theme. That may be like Nietzsche and The Will, or an Oligarchy of Academic/Political Elites working to force their will on society through political correctness and woke. A Western Occult person may have been taught be willful, like a Harry Potter, doing whatever he wanted, and working to assert his will over an objective universe.

In Christianity, someone’s will was being made low. He was a Penitent Man. The Penitent Man like in Indiana Jones. His will was made low till it aligned with God’s will and good plans. God’s plan is The Kingdom of God. God’s Kingdom has particular values.

I started working for God full time in 2014. Rome wasn’t built in a day, but given I had a year, in an understanding of God’s Judgement being behind me, whom or what was most in the way. The easy answer there would be Western Secular Humanists. They were in the way of Christians growing in faith. They were in an unholy alliance with Islam, empowering Islam like the flood of immigrants into Europe or Queers for Palestine. Secular Humanists in the FBI, they went after Mom and Dad at school board meetings and traditional Christians. Wikilinks exposed some interesting things in an understanding of Hillary Clinton and her minions viewing Traditional Christians as the biggest threats. These are understands or evidence I found after the fact. In 2014, I saw that Secular Humanists were most in the way of the Kingdom of God, most in the way of Kingdom of God values, with a difference value structure in a Culture War. Most in the way as they were looking to rebuild or remake society in some other image via Nietzsche. I saw what needed to be done, and with God, we started getting to work.

Growing in Faith, I went through a Penitent Man stage. Sanctification is where someone is being made holy and separate by God. Did a man have sins to repent from? Did he hurt someone where he needs to ask forgiveness? I was a Penitent man.

Video: Penitent Man Indiana Jones.

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I don’t speak your language. I don’t believe in spirits. Intuition is subconscious pattern recognition.

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It would help your case if you didnt go with oxymoron concepts…
Intuition is not a rational process and has no rational elements until and up to the moment where the feeling you are experiencing is explained and it clicks for you WHY you are feeling it.
That is IF there is a reason for it at all.

The farmer is a bad example because there are obvious signs to rain.
There is a smell, there is an increase in moisture, wind changes, animal and insect behavior changes and so on and so forth. Can be rationalized perfectly.
If its a feeling devoid of reason, then it cant be classified as anything more than mysticism.

I understand what you are trying to with the kind of “precognition” concept, but it does not stick.
Absence of conscious logic and rationality, your “gut feeling” is indistinguishable from faith.
You can even become the world’s most accurate oracle and precog, that fact does not change. Thats faith. Thats irrationality. In the practice there is no such thing as “intuitive reasoning” since even if the concept CAN be true and CAN function, in the given moment you cannot verify whether it IS a cause of intuitive reasoning, nor can you verify if your intuition is correct.

TL;DR: The phenomena you describe exists.
Yet its not functional due to indistinguishable from wild faith in the practice.

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What about a woman’s body?

“jesus” lives in ALL human bodies, through its (for now let ‘us’ call) ‘spirit’. The w/Holly Spirit is some thing different, but, for ‘now’, this is close enough.

Well, considering the irrefutable Fact that God speaks THROUGH every human being, this is not at all surprising.

Again, God speaks THROUGH EVERY human being. Some, however, just LISTEN more than others do.

If ‘this’ is what ‘you’ want to believe and say so, then ‘this’ is okay with me.

Again, God speaks THROUGH EVERY one, and NOT just some.

As for coming true, ‘we’ will have to wait, to see, obviously. After all, “Thy kingdom come. Thy will be done on earth, as it is in heaven.” has, obviously, NOT YET come true. Well, not in ‘the days’ when this is being written, clearly. However, ‘It is coming true’.

The belief and claim would be contradictory if this were NOT true.

‘I’ know.

So is EVERY other written and spoken word that leads to the Creation of Peace on earth for EVERY one.

The bible is only but just a part of the Truth of things.

This is ALREADY well understood and fully known.

WHY speak about such a little and narrow part like “christianity” only?

What do ‘you’ mean by ‘interesting’ here, exactly?

Okay.

Okay.

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Have ‘you’ not yet understood and seen God for what It Truly is?

Okay.

HOW did ‘you’ start doing this, exactly?

And, once again, ‘they’, adult human beings, blame someone/something else.

‘They’ have been doing this since “adam” and “eve”, when and where “eve” blamed “a snake” and “adam” blamed “eve”, and since then not that much has really changed with adult human beings. ‘They’ obviously had not yet, hitherto, when this was being written, otherwise ‘they’ also would have already understood and known who and what God is, exactly.

And, like adult “jews” adult “christians” believe that ‘they’ are always ‘the victims’. Again, which is WHY ‘these adult human beings’ stayed STUCK and took so very, very long to CATCH UP.

Here is a prime example of WHY ‘they’ took so long.

This post started out talking about ‘seeing God’, but then drifted into being about HOW it is ‘others’ FAULT WHY things are NOT ‘the way’ ‘the poster’ wants things to be.

So what, and who cares?

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@Nausamedu

Intuitive reasoning may have been developed in hard realities. The Farmer may have had a decade or two of experience. He read the signs. Can you read the signs of the times? (Matthew 16:3)

Intuitive reasoning isn’t “magic.” It is a relationship of faith, a knowledgeable dependence, built in pragmatism and what works. It may start with some leaps of faith. It grows overtime with baby steps.

Part of intuitive reasoning may have been like an algebra problem. There are objective realities and constants. We can fill may be able to fill in the unknowns intuitively in Faith.

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@anew1

If you are going to breakdown every little thing I said, that you disagree with, it shows an immaturity. You disagree, but don’t really understand material and cannot engage in the content.

I am not going to engage with you quoting every little thing I wrote. Who cares? I don’t care.

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@Nausamedu

Are you familiar with the game Battleship?

It is a game where two players place their ships secretly, and they have to deduce where the enemy ships are.

How well do you know your opponent? To know your opponent well, someone may need to first be honest with themselves. They may need to be reflective. Given they are not honest with themselves, they may be projecting false things onto their opponent, and they are just guess and check. Intuitive reasoning is based in hard realities. There is a hard logical component. Overtime, there may have developed a precognition. Someone ended up right a lot through God, and they grew in faith.

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No. And that is the first problem.
Intuitive reasoning CAN be based on hard reality.
A gut feeling can be the result of your brain having noticed something unconsciously sooner than you did consciously.

Do you have any idea how many myriads of other things can evoke and invoke the same kind of feelings? From neurons misfiring to your brain misinterpreting signs, down to psychological problems interacting with any given environment…

The reason nobody cares about intuitive reasoning is that it cannot be verified.
Your gut-feeling can be accurate and it might save lives. Your gut-feeling might also be completely wrong and kill a bunch of people. And do you know what your best way to tell those two things apart is?

A coin flip. Cause you have absolutely no way to justify, verify, confirm, re-think, or rationalize something that was never rational to begin with.
Your intuition might be intuition, it also might be a brain fart, or just your own overgrown ego convincing you that you have this ability.

Empathy runs off of the same kind of story.
You can look at a picture and you can list off dozens of emotional and psychological traits of the individual, just from a still photo. The skill itself is rooted in reading subtle signs, but since the process is overwhelmingly leaning into emotional territory rather than rational or logical, the resulting information will be just that: Someone looking at a picture and telling you how they feel about it.

You have no “on the spot” way of verifying it’s accuracy EVEN IF everything said by the empath is correct.
The problem im proposing here is that without the rational component the concept has no external validity.
You might know how accurate you are.
It might serve you as a skill.
But to any external observer, you are just sitting there feeling things, and thats about as reassuring as a fart in a tornado or a prayer on a falling plane.

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WHY do you presume that I disagree?

When ‘I’ would ask questions, for clarification, this automatically presuming that ‘I’ was disagreeing was a common flaw, back in the days when this was being written.

Once more, sometimes ‘I’ totally agreed with what these people were saying and writing here. ‘I’ just asked for clarification and answers, so that ‘I’ could then obtain new/er or better ways to also explain and/or prove things.

‘you’ are absolutely free to believe, say, and claim absolutely anything you like.

Okay.

But is ‘this’ REALLY what ‘I’ was doing?

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@Nausamedu

Applying the Scientific Method to Spiritual Things is what The Occult is. Given someone may have verified something, he worked to hide it away for himself, and those he wished to share it with.

People lie. People cheat. People steal. Given we getting into Spiritual Understandings right with God, someone is grounded in hard realities.

In a personal way, someone growing in faith, they can verify that Intuitive Reasoning was working for them. God gave them something. It checked out. They felt something, or sensed something. What received was correct. A history of this happening over and over again in a person relationship with God, someone grows to have no doubt and no fear. It doesn’t matter what some Academics say. It doesn’t matter this scientist’s opinion or that scientist’s opinion. Given you can build a rocketship, and it works, it works. Who needs it to not work and why?

In the Bible, this type of reasoning was being taught by Jesus Christ. It was rooted in hard realities.

Jesus Sends Out the Twelve Apostles
7 And he called the twelve and began to send them out two by two, and gave them authority over the unclean spirits. 8 He charged them to take nothing for their journey except a staff—no bread, no bag, no money in their belts— 9 but to wear sandals and not put on two tunics.[a] 10 And he said to them, “Whenever you enter a house, stay there until you depart from there. 11 And if any place will not receive you and they will not listen to you, when you leave, shake off the dust that is on your feet as a testimony against them.” 12 So they went out and proclaimed that people should repent. 13 And they cast out many demons and anointed with oil many who were sick and healed them.

Jesus sends out his disciples in twos. No money. No food. No walking stick. The clothes on their backs.

Where would they eat? Where would they sleep? Sleeping on the cold dirty ground with an empty stomach, that is rough. Someone may have had to turn to, and Hold Tight to or Cleave Unto God.

In the OP, I used a farmer and a detective as an example. Both were in some life and death situations, or situations where if they didn’t succeed, life was about to be very hard. The big difference is someone is “In Christ” 100%, working to build God’s Kingdom, working to grow in faith, holding tight to God. There is reason to how God and faith works. Many people have liked to project false perspectives onto God and Faith and the Bible, and concepts like Intuitive Reasoning.

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The Question: Given someone may have verified some Spiritual Understandings, why would he hide them away?

God is self-evident. God is scary. Terrifying. Have you ever been called into the Principle’s office or had to stand before a judge or other authority figure? Were you nervous? The reality of God is terrifying. Some people have known of God, and worked to hide him away. (Romans 1:18-25)

Some people may have been doing evil or found something interesting, and delved into demons. Given the public knew what they were up to, the public may be angry. They worked to hide it away.

Faith works in particular ways. There are rules to it. Given someone was trying to test something associated with Spiritualism…and they ventured down the Scientific Method checklist, “Test the prediction” phase, they may have been “Testing God.” That may be a sin like King David taking a census. Being in sin, there may have been demons.