Is freedom better then slavery?

When all the troubles and anxieties are all gone, what is left to do?
to survive to the next day and the next? When one has everything he wants, what else can he do in his life?

Aren’t we all in this forum a slave? A slave to philosophy?
A slave of keep asking questions? A slave to God, or a slave to education?

In the mind, what is a true free being, and what is a true slave, or may it have meant servant, in a kinder way?

No, no, and no. You’re lucky - you obviously don’t know what slavery is. 90% of the human race for most of our history was not as fortunate as you.

We choose to indulge in philosophy. A slave has no such luxury. We choose to educate ourselves, for our own benifit and to satisfy our curiosity. Slaves are not allowed education - it makes them dangerous. We even choose the manner in which we glorify God (or refrain from doing so). Most of humanity had their religion forced on them at the point of a sword. We are (assuming you live in a 1st world country) the freest people in the history of the world.

Freedom is unquestionably better than slavery. The stark difference between freedom and slavery should be so brilliant that it seems at times there should be a sense of shame for even attempting to blur the two. All you see around you, the entirety of the modern world, was the product of free men - free minds, free labor, in pursuit of life and happiness. Every material comfort that you now enjoy is the indirect result of this freedom, without which the world would have never left the dark ages.

Some say the modern world was built on slavery - and yet the defining characteristic of this age, compared to all the ages prior, was a profound break with slavery. The slavery of the mind to orthodoxy, the slavery of the suppresion of our knowledge, and the slavery of men to masters, kings, and ideologies. The ancient world was built on slavery. The dark ages were built on slavery. The modern age was one of the few where men and women finally stood on their hind legs, unbowed. For 8000 years, human progress was measured not in years and weeks, but in centuries, if it was even detectable at all.

You misunderstand what I have said. I am not talking slaverly. I am talking about the mind. Are not the minds of the slaverly you mention are free, free from contemplation. While those who are educated are slave to contemplation and competition, and yearn for more education. Therefore,
in their minds their minds are full of axieties and troubles, full of questions. This is the philosopher, while the practical man will be a professional of some sort.

Have you not heard most philosophers wind up poor and crazy. Those who cannot comprenhend nor understand the prime prinicples of those great philosophers, but just keep on talking and giving opinions stating what they mean, never achieved any results. It would have been better if they never been exposed to philosophy nor enlightenment in the first place.

Who said that freedom, in its absolute form, is possible at all?

We are all products of strife and slavery, seeking for a way out of it and a way into non-existence.

Freedom, like so may of those other imprecise and ambiguous human conceptions, is an absolute which, if realized completely, would make life obsolete.

word-worship.

I assume you are a free being because you speak nonsense.

sounds like they were just incapable of understanding the ideas, and they felt the need to understand the specific ideas that were written by obtuse authors.

just believe what you want as long as you can support it with some kind of decent evidence and it makes you happy. you might sound crazy at that point with your solidly unusual opinions, but you wont actually be crazy. you might actually just be right.

“we tend to scoff at the beliefs of the ancients. but we cant scoff at them personally, to their faces, and this is what annoys me” - deep thought by jack handey

you dont have to worry about or understand anything.

or maybe we just started quasi-enslaving people in third world countries instead of in our own. sorry had to say it.

your no entity,your a cubic educated lies from both churcha nd school,your the one with the nonsense,not my fault your stupid and evil,i didn’t mind-rape you now did i?

Since you dont like what I say about you are a free being.
Would you like me to say you are a slave and you don’t speak nonsense.

Yes.
im a mind enslaved american.
yes call me a slave.
im not free,i’m cornered by my creation prinicple,like you.

I disagree when you say I am the same as you. How can you know that,
you do not know my body, nor my movements, nor my mind. You may say you know the ideas out there which influence me. But you cannot say I have not master these things. You may be mastered by the enslaved American mind or so you call it. Because you let yourself allowed it too.
Think deeper on this.

Since you say you are a slave, cornered by your own creation principle.
Surely it is your own creation prinicple, not mines nor others. Just your own, because you created it, and you allow it to enslaved you.

end of discussion

There is but only one slave, slave to one’s own. And free if you chose to be at any moment and then back again slave. Master to oneself.

all humanity shares “my” creation principle,we are not entities nor deities we are Cubics,the highest beings above any of our man-made word-gods or even foreign statues,i was ensalved by stupid and evil people,now i’m trying to escape into the peaceful glimpse of the world,without any furthutr mind-raping slavery.
i didn’t “allow” myself to be indicted stupid and evil,i was just set on the course of a brainwashed and liar filled path in life,i still remain a slave,slavery of the mind is far worse than slavery of the body because it judges you into a Word World full of a devastating future.

Have you seen the movie Donnie Darko? The word world is the primary universe while the Cubic Reality is the tangent universe,a very unstable construct voided by the human mind and Slavery or Free Will,the manipulated dead are the word worshippers and the liars of the primary universe,while the manipulated living are the few people who changed my Life and Personality throughout time,Humanity doesn’t deserve a singularity emotion that’s wrong,it makes the creation principle look like a Typo in it’s own discovery,but in fact it is the truth of saving humanity,future children have the right to spread the truth before adults lead them into an “easter island end” only america is a much larger island of PROPOGATING wordviruses.Frank the Bunny makes a Good example of the fictious Word God manifested only for the educated stupid:lies.when your educated lies,your being brainwashed and enslaved,yes i have the free will to type,but the word virus still continues,and thats the probable,Children should fight from the chains of the word-virus and expose adults for who they really are without seperate emotions of fear running at them all at once.

you cannot master the Cubes,they make you what you are,and your opposite parents make you who you are. No such thing as a Heavenly Father unless there is a heavenly mother involved (but reading the bible prooves mary had incest with her son) and the trinity of all males supports GAY rights quiet clearly.

i didn’t make “my” creation principle,your suggesting iv’e made an act of God,but “my” creation principle corners God,so it’s not an act,it’s natural that humanity is more cubic than any word-worshipped God.

There is only the Cubic sprit,there has always been the Cubic spirit,and there will remain the cubic spirit because without it,humanity is just a fairytale along with its word-gods and sculpture Gods.wordvirus adults mind-rape children faster then they will ever physically rape their future inhabitants.

:confused: Well I am glad you are seeking.


Satyr
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[i]Who said that freedom, in its absolute form, is possible at all?

We are all products of strife and slavery, seeking for a way out of it and a way into non-existence.

Freedom, like so may of those other imprecise and ambiguous human conceptions, is an absolute which, if realized completely, would make life obsolete.[/i]

One does need to believe in freedom in order to reject or object it.

I mean, the simple fact that we can come to the conclusion that both freedom and slavery, both free will and determinism are conceivable and able to be rejected/defended tells more about freedom than all arguments raised against it.

not seeking,found,i found the truth that is supposed to save humanity,if only they stop thinking itz "BS’ or just a big joke,because itz neither.

“reject or object” try neither, the defendant cannot be the judge,the judge has to make the choices for the problem to be solved.

No Donnie, you are wrong. The Flying Spagetti Monster will always beat the Cubic God.

The FSM can manifest itself in any dimension at any time. Can your Cubic God do this?

I didn’t think so.

indeed it can,because WE are the Cubic spirit,humanity is Cubic,and just because you have a big desire for food that doesn’t scare me,your irrational,not my fault.the Cubic spirit is not in any way a “God” there is a difference between a Word-God and a Human-Cubic-Spirit.
i don’t care what you think,you preach religous and academic lies.

Wrong again. “We” are meatballs and we cannot exist outside of the tomato sauce. Only the FSM can transcend the sauce.

Look, this is far too complicated to explain to you right now, so your ignorance is not my concern. All things are absolved by the sauce, no matter what you choose to believe.