Lilith and Adam being the first of their species
Us knowing how that species has butchered animals raped the earth brutalised each other
is it ok for Lilith to cut Adams balls of so that he does not rape her and hence the human species comes to an end there and then
thus saving the plant from the vile human species
I can understand the post I am just trying to understand what the real issue is that you are trying to lay out. You see if she cuts his balls off she is a murderer and would be left alone. Now why would she hurt herself?
Colin you’re a retard. Adam can still perform sexual intercourse if he is only missing his testicles. Amend it to note that his member is severed also.
Amazingly, kriswest, I actually think ladyjane’s post is fairly creative (although not very in-depth). But then some already consider me nuts.
Also, ladyjane, is it true that you’re colinsign? It’s really annoying for continuity if you occasionally renew your anonymity. I’ve been tempted but retracted. People may as well know me for my embarrassing statements as well.
So regarding the question. Assuming we go by conventional ethics, we also have to suspend some belief. I’ll assume your question is metaphorical and that there is no ridiculous biblical banter that speaks any truth (except worth contemplating through metaphore).
Here is my question which I hope aids your question . . .
The basis of how Adam and Lilith live (and later with Eve) is implicit about being the basis of humanity from that point on. God, rather than the omnipotent creator, I consider a metaphor for the fundamental ethics which COULD exist. (the “SHOULD” that we discover rather than invent . . . possibly.) These first humans are metaphors for the fundamentals of humanity. They were ashamed to be naked, and God was mad that they should have any shame in his creation. Eve wasn’t assertive enough to refuse requests that demanded the forbidden (they nulled a contract with god) by partaking from the fruit of the tree of the knowledge of life . . . (I always wondered how closely that could represent the field of genetic engineering). And after lilith was banished because she didn’t obey Adam, Eve was created from him and cursed the whole race by convincing him to do the forbidden (all metaphors about the supposed consistent inferiority and deviance of all females – another blatantly overt biblical theme. As well as the easy excuse for all men to say “she bewitched me”).
If humanity was first propagated by rape, it suggests that rape is ethical in the sense of our existence. And I believe in a more hardline ethic that if it’s wrong it’s simply WRONG and although there are absurd scenarios that can be depicted which puts someone in an ethical bind, they are next to impossible and so we simply need to know RIGHT from WRONG.
In this sense I think it is fair in the metaphore that lilith should castrate adam. If the basis of humanity’s existence is by rape-- then humanity should not exist. It is simple metaphore to justify our exploitation of any specimen around us. “Well it’s just who we are. Don’t deny your nature. God made it for us just like God made lilith for Adam” which I’m sure was a useful slogan that the bible enforced.
Fuck them. Fuck us. I don’t think it’s pleasant to leave the universe as a lifeless husk, so I would only hope that some intelligent specimen out there exists. The humanity of rape and pillage? And I consider that part more truth rather than hypothetical metaphore. Fuck them, they can go to hell.
True, very true. In the case of Adam and Lilith there are several things to think about. We cannot put a normal social perpective on this. First two humans, they would have no social mores yet, they would be acting on primal urges and intincts and their thought patterns would be far removed from ours. To ask the question from our perspective would deny the truth of them. Animals rape This I have seen. A male animal will force the female into submission, not always but, often enough. So rape can be considered a procreative natural act for species survival. It would be thus for the first humans.
Lilith could cut his testicles off but, why? First she would have to know the reason to cut his testicles off and we can be fairly certain that at that point, she would not know the purpose of testicles or how they are a part of sexuality. To defend herself it would be more likely she fight back physically in other ways, than go for the gonads.
Her reactions/actions and his reactions/actions would all have to be based on primary survival. They had no social gaces, no morals, no ethics to hinder or encourage. And no knowledge. To kill or harm Adam would be against survival common sense. Unless we are saying Lilith is a total idiot. We have primary instincts to socialize and be together. She would not endanger her survival just to keep from being raped or carry an infant.
If we put these two in modern thoughts, then just think of Lorraine Bobbit. That lady changed a great number minds with her actions.
Why is it sick? Harm does create very good things. Evil is more than capable of producing good and it has. We cannot begin to fathom life and its reasons. We have nothing to compare it to realisticlly. We just have our own ideas. What if every populated world had similar things in it. We would not be sick then would we? We would be within the norm. Can’t throw the baby out with the bath water Gaia. With all the violence in this world there must be more to it than just survival of life. Lessons must be learned.
Sure it is, if she can, just as it is equally alright for Adam to rape Lilith if he can.
I take it you have a hard time understanding the nihilistic stance on actions and behavior.
In nihilism it is all about those who have the power to succeed in whatever they do or to express it in more general terms, anything goes.
Nihilism perceives the universe to be one of aimless relativity so in otherwords anything and everything goes where distinctions are arbitrary surogates.