hmmm.
oh i have to be patient… theres a time difference and she cant always get naked… but when i wait long enough i get results…
so do girls imagine us guys to be attractive? I imagine guys to be nerds most of you are nerds ha
angst you missed my point.
there is (at least for me, or should i say us, the people born before, arbitrarily, 1984) a fundamental difference between “what we can be shown” and “what we can ask for”. we can ask for alot more than being shown things.
your post, or rather it’s ingenuity, is utter proof to me human civilisation has moved to an entirely…well…ape paradise. not that all the frenchies weren’t churning in my ear stuff about the civilisation of images for the past decades. but sometimes i am guilty of wishfull thinking.
wot wot wot? You totally got me there? Perhaps your one of those guys that sees the human race as beautifull and superior… dude, we are just a bunch of apes… cant belive youve only just realised that… anyway its not like a say "hey you get your tits out!"i have to work for my pleasures… i talk to her, please her myself… i am not a selfish lover
as you should.
I’m not a shellfish lover either. Too fiddly.
Zeno, what is this ape paradise you are talking about? I imagine a group of apes sat on a beach smoking pipes and swimming, occassionally barbecuing a squid…
I am of course quite genuinely good looking. I’ve been told I could talk any woman into bed. Except lesbians, of course. So if any of you girls are assuming us guys are hot, well of course we are. If we were ugly we’d be outside trying to elicit compliments from our friends. We must all be sufficiently beautiful that only a glance in the mirror reminds us and therefore we can bear to spend a few hours a day indoors on the internet.
There you go, a potted rationalisation.
oh yeah sure! 
that means im attactive
and im a supermodel… where is this going?
possum… give us a pic then
you missed the sarcasm… no pics, sorry.
i was just making a point that ANYONE can claim to be good looking on the internet.
i agree you cant tell who someone is or what they look like over the net at first…BUT i agree you can have a relationship over the internet also (i met my boyfriend of 3 years online, ours was meant to be we had a freaky amount in common and even to the point we matched perfectly and lived around the corner from eachother for 3 years before we met online)
ok my point … … i spent ALOT of time talking to him online and in phone calls and you have to be smart… there is no harm in testing someone to see if they are telling you what you want to hear or being honest… let them do some talking and see if they change their tune when you disagree.
Time is the factor not everyone can pretend forever… as for looks… well you will know when you meet to me i was more interested in how MUCH we had in common and his mind is a beautiful one… also hey i’m no supermodel so why do i want a supermodel!? to be honest if people use to approach me as blond, blue eyes, mr.universe i would say oh thats nice and close thier window… simply because i’m no match and i dont want that… you have to be realistic if i’m miss average and no mr. universe in real time even looked my way why online?.. and do i want that? no i want someone i can feel comfortable with in EVERY WAY… ← so again be smart about it 
(…yes you also have to be compatible physically in a relationship… but i belive if you fall for the mind that person will be more attractive to your minds eye anyway…and thats something you will ahve to sort out once you meet in real time… they cant hide the fact that they sent you miss.australia’s photo when they meet you… then you take it as a life lesson)
NOT everyone is a deceptive little worm online… think about it are you? i’m not… so i’m guessing yeh the odds are a little low (same in real time) but their are honest people out there as well as scum… you just have to learnt o be wise about it… and take your time…
my advice is really get to know them, chat on the phone and try to be realistic if they are in another country and you cant afford to go to the next suburb then why persue it… its only going to be stressful and a heartache if you fall for them.
my 2 cents 
by the way possum i got the sarcasm… im a brit, we invented sarcasm… i was just replying with sarcasm also
that is good advice odyssey…
hell - im an auss… we’re the brits master piece…
my response regarding sarcasm was as sarcastic as my first post coz i got that your post was sarcastic…
it makes sense to me…
I’m not sure it’s possible not to deceive online.
i suppose we show but one of many facades that we present to the world. and if your here long enough, people see more that one. they are all a part of us, they are just different perspectives. i suppose thats why on the internet we often see the most bizarre and distasteful sides of people. theyre are no consequences to their actions here.
yes cus if you met me in real life i would be terribly quiet… and shy
The Good in Online Relationships
-They have no faults.
-They are fabulous looking.
-You get to know their heart and soul.
The Bad in Online Relationships
-They have no faults
-They are fabulous looking, and the photo they send you may be their neighbor’s.
-They may be axe murderers in their spare time.
-The illusion of perfection can ruin your 3D relationships.
-They are a product of their words when the words they write may not even be their own.
Is it possible? Sure. Why not meet the axe murderer of your dreams? He/she could be to die for.
On-line relationships can of course be as you say Bessy, after all we(everyone on this forum) are all really 13 year old boys play pretending from our parents basement probably somewhere in CA … or maybe not, do CA houses usually have basements?
On the other hand most 13 year olds can’t really maintain a consistent persona for long and on-line or in the flesh is really is the words that reflect the soul, not the eyes the way poets would have us think.
Anyway who cares if you are all axe murderers, I didn’t want to live forever.
Anyone could be an axe murderer given the right suppressed memories. Or so I’m led to believe. Nice hubby Jim, who has been married to Carol for 23 years and has 3 children might one day place his daughter, Barbara, in a woodchipper for being too overt with her make up, perfume and revealing clothing.
How about the dude who worked as assistant manager at a Macdo’s for 2 decades then one day came into work with a semi-automatic and shot 20 people? Okay, he had a reasonable excuse, but he had a reasonable excuse every day for nearly 20 years, what made him do it then?
I’m all for demonic possession as the unlikely but true explanation.
Yes, but there are always exceptions