Is morality subjective or objective?

Yes there is morality Ichthus and God has defined it already.If you want to redefine morality then you are going to have to cancel yourself out which we all know you can’t do because you need to exist to claim that you don’t exist.You will answer to God for the sins carried out in the body….we all will.

Proverbs 9:10

Which is precisely why all of mainstream science is nonsense.

Which God? Christ? Allah? Krishna? Zeus? Jupiter?

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The omnipresent God who has always existed.Begotten not made.The fool says in his heart there is no God.

Completely off-topic, but curiosity takes the best of me.

How can a God be begotten and simultaneously always existent? When was he begotten?

God has always existed because he is begotten not made and as the redefinition of morality is dependent upon all things cancelling out and we know that it’s not possible for the individual to cancel themselves out because they need to exist to claim that they don’t exist then God’s morality remains intact and every individual will answer to God for the sins committed whilst in the body.

I will consider god’s point once he comes down himself and tells it personally.
Until then, he is nothing but sophistry created by sociopaths who use the concept in order to prescribe for the rest of humanity what they can and cannot do.

Until then, i will go by what this supposed god has created and set up as an actual, observable rule for existence on this planet, namely survival of the fittest. I think the world he supposedly created, speaks for itself when it comes to morals and ethics.

Do you want Jesus to come back and start all over from scratch just for you? Do you want all of history to repeat all over again just for you?

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That’s your hope then is it….because that is all you have …hope…..and a failed +=- and -=+ starting philosophy because you can’t cancel yourself out or force absolutes….so all the science that you believe in is incorrect as well because it’s all founded upon the same failed starting philosophy as well,

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Im pretty sure that the almighty creator that stands above this universe and have invented all and it’s laws, can pull off the comically meager task of confirming its own existence, identity and wishes.
Personally. Not through a bunch of war starting psychopaths which use its supposed words solely to establish themselves as above the rest of their fellow humans.

The idea that “God” needs messengers is the finest comedy our species has ever invented.

Science’s claim of naturalism is an unproven and faith based claim. There is no proof that there are no higher beings that could influence this universe.

I carry neither hope nor do i “believe” in failed, faith based claims and philosophies. I treat the world as is and ”I know nothing except the fact of my ignorance”

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While I am not a big fan of Platonic philosophy, this Socratic verse carries profound wisdom.

Philosophy should not act like religion. I think that the point of philosophy is to provide several paths towards the pursuit of the truth (subjective, objective or however else we want to call it). Following one path requires accepting some premises, not because you believe in the absolute correctness of them, but because they resonate better with your understanding of life.

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Well, sometimes we’re messengers and sometimes we’re …foils.

In order for there to be a last, there must be a first, and in order for there to be a first, there must be a last. Without distinctions, how will we ever communicate equality?

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You are totally ignorant about absolutely everything because you are kept in the dark in your unbelief Nausamendu…You are absolutely correct about that.All of us will be brought into the light though whether we like it or not.

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It seems that person is just as ignorant as the 5 bazillion and 3434 teapots!

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This is not a functioning argument.
I can believe anything i want to and feel justified in the process.
I can do so because reality is subjective to the individual. If you believe strong enough, then anything can become your reality.
The only requirement for that is belief. Nothing more.

Belief is the absolute and ultimate peak of ignorance.
Where one not only does not know anything, but decides to construct something for themselves they can unquestioningly believe in, thus turning their backs on the actual reality completely.
Belief has no capacity to bring anyone outside “into the light”.
Belief can only ever turn you inwards and fold you onto yourself.
The more you believe, the more true your belief becomes.

Im not going to say that this is wrong, reprehensible or something to be denounced or denied.
In fact, if this has bought stability to your life then im happy for your happiness. If the belief you picked is a net positive to your surrounding, then objectively even more so.

But this is not a tool of understanding or enlightenment.

You can believe whatever nonsense you want…I agree …and you do Nausamedu.

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Funny you’d say that considering that nothing i have said was based on belief.
Logic, conjecture and reasoning do not care much about what i want to believe in.

You believe whatever nonsense you want Nausamedu…It’s impossible to explain nonsense in any meaningful way on forums.You are one confused and lost individual.

Dont confuse impossibility of explanation with the lack of capacity to understand.

You believe in nonsense so don’t have the capacity to understand anything at all because the light within you is darkness…so you are completely blind…and lost.

You prefer darkness rather than light which is why you remain in the dark deluding yourself.

I try to refrain as much as possible from judging other people’s beliefs and ideologies but these are pretty strong words from someone who self-admittedly decided that their fantasy and fiction is the one and only valid truth and interpretation of the reality.

Complete blindness my friend starts with the idea that belief and having faith in your own koolaid makes it true.
Reflect on that a bit.