(this was intended for the OP, I pressed the wrong button, it’s pretty confusing here with all that kaleidoscope of colours)
I’d say it’s the opposite: theology is god without philosophy. Schopenhauer already cleared that one up, he said that theology is an impostor trying to pass herself up as philosophy.
Theology is born from dogma. Philosophy can never be a dogma.
I’d say it’s the opposite: theology is god without philosophy. Schopenhauer already cleared that one up, he said that theology is an impostor trying to pass herself up as philosophy.
Theology is born from dogma. Philosophy can never be simply a dogma. A dogma is very simple, all it is required is that one has ‘faith’, i.e. no evidence whatsoever needed, since it can never be provided.
Well you’ve made it part of the dogma of philosophy-as-you-see-it that it has nothing to do with theology, or theology has nothing to do with it.
If you go back to the roots, it was a bunch of polytheists and theists bumping into each other and noticing that they organize their gods/universes/ideas differently.
What do you have to say about Diogenes the Cynic’s universe and ideas?
Isn’t it interesting how the beginning of Genesis is talking about our earliest understandings about how the universe was first organized, how we related with the beings who preceded our kind, how the first people organized ourselves geographically and began hunting and gathering and living in cities and making stuff with technology, how we accounted for blessings and adversity, and how everything went wrong (we encountered the very thing we were trying to avoid) when we cooperated badly?
Isn’t it interesting that the book of Job does the same thing in terms of our relationship to the universe and what is within our control and what is beyond our control, and how we relate with the beings who control that which is beyond our control?
Isn’t it interesting that the early Greek philosophers also had this repeating theme that we are responsible for the part of the universe that is under our stewardship, which starts with our plans and behavior? And isn’t it interesting how Job’s wife basically just tells him to kill himself in response to adversity—and we’re always trying to suss out when adversity is something we made happen with our choices …or if it’s really a bad thing at all? This is another theme in the book of Jonah. He basically tells the people on the ship in the storm to throw him over because he knows it is his own action that is causing all of the adversity. Not so in the case of Job.
And Ecclesiastes does note that adversity and good happen to both those who deserve it and those who don’t in the eyes of those who don’t see everything. And it is a theme that Jesus takes up. And he leans in to adversity and sees the joy on the other side of it while he is in it.
But please, what do you have to tell us about Diogenes the Cynic?