Is religion for sick people

So you believe the sun is real.

How faithful of you. It appears as though even barbarians believe in things. It is clear you don’t know what “cause” or “thing” makes the sun “real”.

And what if you are the sick one, and they the healthy ones? I mean, look at this unhealthy obsession of your hatred against religion!

And also, what is the difference between somebody “feeling powerful” as opposed to “being powerful”?

Aren’t the religious being powerful through their faith, rather than just “feeling powerful”?

You can’t fool me, barbarian. You have no consideration for children, or anybody, except yourself! You are selfish, not selfless.

You don’t care about children or other people, one iota.

What is compassion to a selfish, self-righteous person? It should be easy to see.

Maybe it is necessary for the father to oppress the son, for his own Good. Haven’t you ever considered that?!?!

What does God have to do with the hatred of your own father?!

Yet you believe the sun is “real”, but you cannot answer why or how that is???

You believe in the sun, the same way religious people believe in God. At least, some of them do have answers, unlike yourself. Even a scientist can describe and explain why and how the sun is “real”. You can’t go beyond your beliefs?

Just because the world is incomprehensible to some does not mean it is incomprehensible to all!

Religion maybe for some sick people. But it is mostly for healthy people! It is for parents, who desire Monogamy and structure, a true Family. It is for noble blooded human beings with strength of honor, loyalty, and decency. It is for people who value permanence in friendship. It is for people who value bondage to his or her community. It is for the protection of children, through Chastity and the sanctity of Marriage.

Religion is about the bond between Man and Woman.

You sound lost, child. I welcome you to the flock! :smiley:

May you see the Light.

No I know it.

Experience.

Have you experienced God?
Describe. God and the experience.

I really hope you don’t think you are thinking logically.

You act on faith-reflex, not logic. The happy joy of assumptions and random thoughts, praise God!

Yeah of course to you my health is sickness, my good is your evil … our positions are opposed no point in trying to change that.

Thats true they created a certain type of power which comes with believing, namely, doing whatever is told to you is right. And I never denied that the Pope is powerful. If he wasn’t it wouldn’t be a problem would it?

Believe that if it helps, I wonder why you would need to think that.

I am hard on people who believe in shit without taking responsibility for the consequences. That does not mean I do not have compassion, on the contrary. I just do not forgive all sins, a murder is a murder. Sure I can be compassionate about the murderer but that does not make me blind. I judge actions, not souls.

Oppress him? He let him be tortured to death! For his own good? Yeah thats the myth. That its good to crucify your son. No I had never considered that or at least not come to that conclusion.

Lol you are so fucking clueless. My father is hard to deal with sometimes but he did not put me through torment to teach me that all is equal and meaningless on earth. He is a great man and not just because he brought me into this beautiful world.

Do you mean that you don’t believe that the sun is real? Otherwise your point is nonsense. I believe it because I see it and feel it and because I see its effect on the world.
I dont see that with God to be honest, unless if you count the belief in God as God, yes the belief also has an effect. But to me that is just a human tricking himself into being happy with misery.

That’s news for me I thought God was by definition not understandable. Who understands God? Has he (or she) explained? If so then what is this explanation?

You need God to love a woman? To stay true to your family? Really?

Sure, I get lost sometimes to refind myself. It’s a game I call “being in the world”

That’s the difference between us you have no discernment. You think that to love means to don’t give a shit for what someone is about. I certainly don’t welcome you in my pack.

What else can I see?

And you are Stoic Guardian, I presume.

Yes…

Good that we know each other.

What do you think bout God?

That my thoughts on God are largely unimportant and vastly incomplete, why do you ask?

Oh just because you are in this thread. No reason in particular, a Stoic is not the first person I would go to to talk to about God I guess.

Why is that?

Because he couldn’t give a shit.

Him?

Partly true though apathea and all.

Like “who cares” right?

Anyway how am I a what was it - stereotype?

That’s only partly true. If he believes in a god, he will care but not to the point where some others might in an unrealistic way. So perhaps the stoic would be the one to go to as he would cut through all of the meaningless nonsense and that could lead to a more valuable and real discussion, imo.