Is sexual transmitted disease a god-sent disease?

[dan020350]

either this came from the wrath of God.
Or it came from the wrath of nature?

Then you may say it came from a monkey, or it came from the victim’s doing, and it is their responsiblity to accept the consequences. However, the person who does have a disease and does not realize he has it, surely, this is an unfortunate event.

Just want to add a question in the religion forum today.

[Club29]

I’m no science expert, but how exactly did this/these monkey/monkeys get it?

[oldphil]

Its not sent by god…because god doesnt exist.

[scythekain]

@Club29

I’m no science expert, but how exactly did this/these monkey/monkeys get it?

From wikipedia:

Origin of HIV

Main article: AIDS origin

The AIDS epidemic was discovered June 5, 1981, when the U.S. Centers for Disease Control and Prevention reported a cluster of Pneumocystis carinii pneumonia (now classified as Pneumocystis jiroveci pneumonia) in five homosexual men in Los Angeles.[106] Originally dubbed GRID, or Gay-Related Immune Deficiency, health authorities soon realized that nearly half of the people identified with the syndrome were not homosexual men. In 1982, the CDC introduced the term AIDS to describe the newly recognized syndrome.

Three of the earliest known instances of HIV infection are as follows:

1. A plasma sample taken in 1959 from an adult male living in what is now the Democratic Republic of Congo.[107]
2. HIV found in tissue samples from a 15 year old African-American teenager who died in St. Louis in 1969.[108]
3. HIV found in tissue samples from a Norwegian sailor who died around 1976.[109]

Two species of HIV infect humans: HIV-1 and HIV-2. HIV-1 is more virulent and more easily transmitted. HIV-1 is the source of the majority of HIV infections throughout the world, while HIV-2 is not as easily transmitted and is largely confined to West Africa.[110] Both HIV-1 and HIV-2 are of primate origin. The origin of HIV-1 is the Central Common Chimpanzee (Pan troglodytes troglodytes) found in southern Cameroon.[111] It is established that HIV-2 originated from the Sooty Mangabey (Cercocebus atys), an Old World monkey of Guinea Bissau, Gabon, and Cameroon.

Although a variety of theories exist explaining the transfer of HIV to humans, there is no widely accepted scientific consensus of any single hypothesis and the topic remains controversial. Freelance journalist Tom Curtis discussed one currently controversial possibility for the origin of HIV/AIDS in a 1992 Rolling Stone magazine article. He put forward what is now known as the OPV AIDS hypothesis, which suggests that AIDS was inadvertently caused in the late 1950s in the Belgian Congo by Hilary Koprowski’s research into a polio vaccine.[112] Although subsequently retracted due to libel issues surrounding its claims, the Rolling Stone article motivated another freelance journalist, Edward Hooper, to probe more deeply into this subject. Hooper’s research resulted in his publishing a 1999 book, The River, in which he alleged that an experimental oral polio vaccine prepared using chimpanzee kidney tissue was the route through which simian immunodeficiency virus (SIV) crossed into humans to become HIV, thus starting the human AIDS pandemic.[113] Subsequently, this hypothesis has been refuted by examination of these original polio vaccine stocks and establishing that they do not contain material of chimpanzee origin.[114]

Dan, Since nearly half of the victims of AIDS are heterosexual I very much doubt it’s god’s wrath towards homosexuals… it’s obviously god’s wrath towards needle sharing!

Its not sent by god…because god doesnt exist.

Ol phil… are you stating that as fact or belief?

[Dan1 (Dan~)]

@dan020350

either this came from the wrath of God.
Or it came from the wrath of nature?

It did not come from any wrath. If you haven’t noticed, pathogens are rather unconscious, having no wrath or Will. They are little oppertunistic bio-machines, that’s all…

Then you may say it came from a monkey, or it came from the victim’s doing, and it is their responsiblity to accept the consequences. However, the person who does have a disease and does not realize he has it, surely, this is an unfortunate event.

Just want to add a question in the religion forum today.

If you take a second look at your own thread and yourself, you’ll see that ignorance, not “God’s wrath” – is the reason why people suffer.

[Father_Nature]

STD’s are sent by Karma, not God.

Always rubber your duckie.

[Dan1 (Dan~)]

@Father Nature

STD’s are sent by Karma, not God.

Always rubber your duckie.

[Club29]

@Father Nature

STD’s are sent by Karma, not God.

Always rubber your duckie.

Karma makes no sense at all.

[Dan1 (Dan~)]

@Club29

@Father Nature

STD’s are sent by Karma, not God.

Always rubber your duckie.

Karma makes no sense at all.

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Karma

@KARMA

[meaning deed] meaning action, effect, destiny) means “(the result of) action”, generally taken as a term that comprises the entire cycle of cause and effect. Karma is a sum of all that an individual has done, is currently doing and will do. Individuals go through certain processes and accompanying experiences throughout their lives which they have chosen, and those would be based on the results of their own creations: “karma”. Karma is not about retribution, vengeance, punishment or reward. Karma simply deals with what is. The effects of all deeds actively create past, present and future experiences, thus making one responsible for one’s own life, and the pain and joy brought to others.

[But]

In religions that incorporate reincarnation, karma extends through one’s present life and all past and future lives as well.

[dan020350]

How interesting that you took it as sexual transmitted diseased related to HIV and Homosexuals. What I was mainly refering that I hope that someone would pick up well at least now, “Thou Shall not commit adultery” commandment

[Satori]

HIV from a biological aspect is too DAMN good to be a normal pathogen. I read a few books on the microbiological aspect of it and let me just tell you, if it ever evolves, we are in more trouble than we dare dream. But yes, it may be sent from above….

On a seperate note have you ever watched the spouses etc during one of those Herpes drugs commercials. You can tell they are looking at the other person like “You little slut.” or “Prick.” because you know…they have Herpes.

[Dan1 (Dan~)]

@dan020350

How interesting that you took it as sexual transmitted diseased related to HIV and Homosexuals. What I was mainly refering that I hope that someone would pick up well at least now, “Thou Shall not commit adultery” commandment

@Dan~

If you take a second look at your own thread and yourself, you’ll see that ignorance, not “God’s wrath” – is the reason why people suffer.

[size=150]IGNORANCE,
DEGENORATION,
UNDER-DEVELOPMENT.[/size]
^
The cause.

What makes you think your God is so great?

[Dan1 (Dan~)]

@Satori

HIV from a biological aspect is too DAMN good to be a normal pathogen.

PFff.

There are pleanty of D3 and D4 glass pathogens which were both naturally occuring [then collected], or engineered. But they are not “out” yet.

@Satori

I read a few books on the microbiological aspect of it and let me just tell you, if it ever evolves, we are in more trouble than we dare dream.

Air-born versions have already been made, but are not released into the public yet. We will see what happens someday…

[dan020350]

@Satori

HIV from a biological aspect is too DAMN good to be a normal pathogen. I read a few books on the microbiological aspect of it and let me just tell you, if it ever evolves, we are in more trouble than we dare dream. But yes, it may be sent from above….

On a seperate note have you ever watched the spouses etc during one of those Herpes drugs commercials. You can tell they are looking at the other person like “You little slut.” or “Prick.” because you know…they have Herpes.

I assume you do believe it was god-sent, but do not have the courage to admit so, because of what others may think of you.

dan~

If you take a second look at your own thread and yourself, you’ll see that ignorance, not “God’s wrath” – is the reason why people suffer.

Well excuse me princess. I was recognized by thrist4metal, to be the worst member in this forum site from my mundane babble thread. The reason why people suffer is because of bad and unfair judgment from other men. While, people who died from hunger is not because God wills it, but because of stone of heart from other men.

[Satori]

I assume you do believe it was god-sent, but do not have the courage to admit so, because of what others may think of you.

Nahh I believe some are just natural pathogens while HIV is eerily bioengineered. I am not a believer in the God guy.

There are pleanty of D3 and D4 glass pathogens which were both naturally occuring [then collected], or engineered. But they are not “out” yet.

The good times known as biological warfare!

[dan020350]

Nahh I believe some are just natural pathogens while HIV is eerily bioengineered. I am not a believer in the God guy.

Charles Darwin, did not believe in it either backed by his theory on evolution; but it was told on his near death, he decided to believe in God and become baptize and become a christian.

Since you are not near death , you do not need to worry.

[Satori]

Life forges me; not my own death, my friend. I will die like I live, calm and detached. I have lived a good life what do I have to worry over? Would water absolve me from my misdeeds? Would calling myself something different such as a Christian empower my goodness? I contain a clear conscious maybe Darwin simply fell prey to not only his own mortality but the hype of his beliefs to be blasphemous. Perhaps we all would given his circumstance.

[dan020350]

satori~

You said you have lived a good life?

Would you say, one should live whatever you want, as the state law is not broken? Or would live a good life living remaining including breaking some laws, and remain hidden from being caught?

would life be much better if everyone is a sinner? I feel that way as well. However, why does my conscience holds me back?

I tell you a situation, there was a person sudden came shouting at me, saying that I forced him to move out of the parking space, and he parked the next slot. He came to me yelling at me saying who you think you are, pushing me out…blah blah …fck …fck …fck…yet, I think he was challenging me into a fight, but I said sorrie constantly.
Once I walked out of the car while he went back to his car, he said he was sorry.

[Satori]

Would you say, one should live whatever you want, as the state law is not broken? Or would live a good life living remaining including breaking some laws, and remain hidden from being caught?

Are you saying a life of moral relativity or one of justness according to our laws? I dare say I need you to clarify this a bit.

would life be much better if everyone is a sinner? I feel that way as well. However, why does my conscience holds me back?

I think most everyone is already a sinner in some regards. I have had pre-marital sex, I eat meat including pork and beef, and I work on the Sabbath. Right there I am going against 4 major religions. I guess I would be a sinner than? I am certainly not advocating chaos or anything such as it. Regardless Life would continue to move at the speed of Life whether people sin or not.

I tell you a situation, there was a person sudden came shouting at me, saying that I forced him to move out of the parking space, and he parked the next slot. He came to me yelling at me saying who you think you are, pushing me out…blah blah …fck …fck …fck…yet, I think he was challenging me into a fight, but I said sorrie constantly.
Once I walked out of the car while he went back to his car, he said he was sorry.

I believe either I am missing the parable or…you would have a high BAC reading.

[dan020350]

there was another story I want to say in reaction to you post, but suddenly it slipped my mind

but here is another one anyway,

human subjects in order to observed the effects and nature of a disease, mainly the one in syphillis case, big deal no one give a damn as long as it does not make public…so what ever we say now or clarity we will be doing, it will not matter to go on further,

I just wanted to write and hear replies mainly for the sake of pleasure and hearing the wisdom of others and what they got to say…

nothin more…