Is truth the end of philosophy?

Is the “end” destruction…or a attained goal?

Any thoughts?

An unattainable goal.

Just perfect.

Let’s leave it that way. k?

If we were to discover the ultimate truth, it seems like then we would in fact become god.

I would say that is a end of sorts.

the truth unfolds in time, is an event perhaps. the “end”, then, would be the end of time and space. if time and space end, then maybe truth ends too. that is, unless, truth is eternal and outside space and time. i think truth is both in time and outside time. however if there is no time to speak of at all, then there is no “in” or “outside”. the dichotomy bursts.

Or discover that we were God all along.

Shyster,

Yeah definately.

You know how I feel about that stuff… I was just trying not to get too opinionated

If we found out the truth, we would transcend our human existence, and become eternal. One would just “be”, think kind of the lines of enlightnement, except for it’s unnattainable by any of our subjective means, truth being the most objective and eternal concept is impossible for us to come to, but that doesn’t mean you stop trying :wink:

The end is truth?

Then what is the beginning ?

In the end, some things will be lost, and some things will be gained. It all depends on how you want to look at it…

kida of like asking is you glass half-full or half-empty… :wink:

just my 2 cents, anyways…

All very good thought-provoking statements.

What IS the beginning of philosophy?

Does it have one?

“Philosophy begins in wonder and ends in wisdom.” – Aristotle??
“Wonder is the feeling of the philosopher.” – Plato

I’m surprised no one mentioned about truth, that you get it in classical and scholastic philosophy, but in much modern philosophy they seem to believe it only gives you clarity or word-games.

Also, to be provocative let me suggest: I have read Aquinas as saying that the end of the universe is the knowledge of God (Who is said to be the Truth, so that accords with what has been said here). Is religion then the application of philosophy? A source of philosophy?

I like your opinions. :smiley:

Philosophy begins in ignorance and ends in confusion. Shyster

Oh I like that one.

hey nice avatar hottie :wink:

Any truth creates an infinite number of questions.
Truth is confusion.

indeed TimeCube truth is confusion,that’s why people see it with a negative impact and are better off satisfyed with their religous views instead.

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Truth is the beginning of questions not the end. It is “the final answer” that we search for in ourselves. The final answer resides within not without. Time does not affect this. Time cannot run out. it is not ending. By its very existance time will always be.
Matter will always be. What is cannot be removed. It can change but, it cannot stop existing. Planes of existance and time flow through all things. It changes everything as it goes along, sometimes slowly sometimes in less then a nano second. The universe and the matter and energy that exists in it will always be. It is in constant motion and change. yet it does not lessen. It changes properties. What exists outside the universe is the same. It changes and flows and creates patterns unheard of yet. We are a part of the universe even should this blue marble cease. We will just change.

David Redden wrote:

Truth is the end of philosophy, as it would then be complete. The absence of truth is why it exists at all.

Shyster wrote:

In that case wouldn’t the fact that we were god all along be the ultimate truth? In which case we should have spontanously all turned into god apon reading it. (checks self) Nup, not God.
(Though I’ve heard Shyster is a goddess already. :wink: I agree. Nice avatar.)
Perhaps the other option for the basis of the ultimate truth would be to find a truth that even God doesn’t know.

I think the ultimate truth is the answer to the question why. We can’t know why anything does anything, we can just know how, what, where, and when. If we discovered why, time would dissolve and eternity would be an instant. All of our lives, would already be complete, the universe would dissolve materially, because we would stop perceiving, then their is darkness, and once there’s an is, there’s a what, a how, a where and a when. Then the infinite questions come back, and the world becomes perceivable again. It’s plausible that this happens every second/moment, whatever word you fancy for a click of time.