It is worse that I suspected with Iran

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Rummy, we have a problem, wake-up!

History, Humanity & Destiny
Tuesday, April 04, 2006
Iran: Military Exercise near the US borders
It is not a joke! This may sound like a bad joke but it is coming out of the mouths of some serious folks inside the Iranian leadership.

An Iranian hardliner party which controls both the Islamic parliament and the government, named Abadgaran, has suggested that Iran should conduct a military exercise with Cuba, Venezuela and other anti-America countries in that region of the world to send a message to the United States of America.

Aftab News, the mouthpiece of the Abadgaran party (also here) writes about this on its web site in Persian language.

It reads (It’s in Persian & I’ll translate):

The head of the Abadgaran political party “Hasan Bayadi” (He is the Vice President of the city council of Tehran) has suggested to the Iranian Ministry of defense to conduct war games near the borders of the America to show the strength of the Iranian military.

He continues: Every year the US military conducts wargames near countries such as North Korea, Syria or Iran that are not friendly to the USA to show them how mighty the US military is and the Americans have also invaded our air space and interior waters -they say it is not intentional- under the pretext of occupation of Iraq and Afghanistan to send us a message and the message these invasions of our airspace have is that “We can attack you and you are never safe from our military threat and the shadow of fear will always cover your countries”…

Therefore, we, recommend to the new Iranian defense minister to take the initiative and prepare a military exercise with the countries of the western hemisphere such as Cuba and Venezuela.

The article adds: It is, for sure, a very hard thing to do and the costs of such action is too high but it sends a clear message (it has a positive outcome) to the master of politics around the world.

He also mentions the example done by the prophet of Islam during the battle of Tabouk in which the Muhammad’s army was preparing for a battle exercise with the Roman emperor.

He ends his suggestion by adding this war game with our allies in that region, near the US borders, will pave the way for military cooperations with the regional governments and it will also be a stage for Iran’s military to show to world, especially the Imperialists, how strong it is and finally it is also a chance and a great advantage for the Iranian armed services to test their capablities with our allied countries overseas.
I told you it ain’t a joke!
پیشنهاد آبادگران: مانور نظامی کنار مرزهای امریکا
آفتاب: حزب آبادگران جوان به وزارت دفاع جمهوری اسلامی پیشنهاد داد که در کنار کشور امریکا، مانورهای نظامی برگزار کند

posted by Winston at 4:20 AM

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Hmm

Buckle up everyone. Things are about to get bumpy.

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Good thing all our troops are tied up in Iraq and we won’t be able to properly respond to this.

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The Iranians are threatening war, which makes the Americans go ‘look, look, they’re threatening war’. Of course the Americans have already threatened war with the Iranians, making them go ‘look, look, they’re threatening war’. It’s like a Monty Python sketch, each one shouting that the other one started it and that the other one’s actions are unreasonable. Both sides are guilty of massive hypocrisy and neither side is doing itself any favours with this present strategy. The Chinese are coming…

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G.

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My money is on either China or India.

India is lookin’ little better right now, but China is catchin’ up faster than India is growing.

The EU doesn’t have the cajones to really be a superpower again. There isn’t enough domestic strife, boarder troubles, and dreams of world domination.

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G.

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On the latter count I myself more than make up for Europe’s general lack in this particular field…

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I got this from the “political wire”

Bush planning to strike Iran.

The New Yorker: (magazine)"The bush administration,
while publicly advocating diplomacy in order to stop Iran from
pursuing a nuclear weapon, has increased clandestine activities
inside Iran and intensified planning for a possible major air
attack. Current and former American military and
intelligence officials said that Air force planning groups
are drawing up lists of targets, and teams of American combat
troops have been ordered into Iran, under cover, to collect
targeting data and to establish contact with anti-government
ethnic-minority groups. the officials say that President bush
is determined to deny the Iranian regime the
opportunity to begin a pilot program, planned for this spring
to enrich uranium.

K: Sounds familiar? Yep, another intelligence fuck up in
the works. Sources who actually know say that Iran is
perhaps 5, FIVE, years from actually being able to enrich
uranium. However the one major difference here is,
if we attacked Iran, we have a really good chance of
igniting world war three. Iran unlike Iraq, is bigger stronger,
with a far better military and will unleash 7 types of hell in
terms of terrorism. If you thought Iraq was bad, what until
you get Iran. I know quite a few Iranians, and they are a very,
very patriotic bunch. Iran will not back down and will not
run. They will fight to the death.

Kropotkin

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uh oh!!! if their military is too strong, we wont be allowed to sanction that commie castro or extract profits through the super rich of latin america anymore!

no more chandeliers in my hummer limo!?!? NEVER!!! invade iran! i dont care how many low income americans die! and i damn sure dont care how many foreigners die!

its a mountainous jungle!! exactly what vietnam taught us to stay the fuck away from. no tanks, everything else is extremely more difficult. everything else, that is, except for guerilla warfare, in which case its extremely perfect. i dont doubt that iranians will have vietcong digging their tunnels. they will obviously have children with bombs strapped on them, women crying and pretending to be innocent and then shooting our 18 year olds in the back until they go crazy and start massacring villagers.

they are not being liberated from a terrible dictator, as far as they know. there will be no welcome parade.

i will blow up the washington phallus monument if we even think about sending people to iran. stupid empire.

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see whats sad is that even the hard line conservatives in america dont want this. its just a waste.

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:sunglasses:

perfect response, cba. but i was actually making fun of those idiots. the hard line neo-conservatives that have infested our government with their new world filth dont care who dies or who is happy, only who pads their ridiculously embarassing bank accounts. i make fun of them so that all can see the motivation behind their horrifying lies of death and mutiliation.

hooray for america! hooray for dismemberment and starvation! as long as it is mainly foreign non-voters who are maimed and disenfranchised. hooray!

god bless america. please, mephisto, god of terror and hate, bless america in our war against disgusting pluralist rebels so that we may afford the many preservatives in our nutritious delicasies. gAmen.

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heh… i work at a library and every time i go into the magazine section im bombarded by how everyone disagrees with bush conservative magazines and liberal alike. yet it comes as no surprise to me that the people in the library itself being mostly older and thus more conservative are still supporting him.

i dont know where humans lost their marbles but i think we should find them quickly. especially being that the other thing that is constantly on magazine headlines is how the world is being destroyed which i assume is being stirred by oil and energy shortages. theres not much to say except we really fucked everything up. id say it sucks to be alive this day and age with so many bad things about to happen but it sucks to be alive throughout most of history. i dont know… i guess we can bring on the final act “nuclear war”. it cant be too far away. with so many desperate people about.

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Hum, doubt it. Look at the recent riots in France regarding fireing employees without cause. The Socialist economy will probably be crushed by China, India and the USA. Do you have some support for your claim?

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Hum, doubt it. Look at the recent riots in France regarding fireing employees without cause. The Socialist economy will probably be crushed by China, India and the USA. Do you have some support for your claim?

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theres not going to be any more super powers. anyone dumb enough to act aggressively is asking for a nuclear war. if theres another super power well all be dead before it gets off its feet.

as far as economics. corporations dont belong to countries.

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Just as a sidenote:

Several mistakes. The law that you’re probably alluding at states not that employees are going to be fired without a cause, but that youth workers will be easier to dismiss. There’s a difference.

Furthermore, you make it sound like France is on the brink of civil war. It’s not. There are no riots, just a bunch of protests.

Oh, and by the way - the waters are calm now.

news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/europe/4895164.stm

Well gosh, Europe is not so barbarian after all…

What do you mean by this ?

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What you have to remember is that to some Americans ANY public protest constitutes ‘on the brink of civil war’ because America just doesn’t have the history of popular protest movements that Europe has…

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When i read that i though, fascist. i didnt realise it was a joke.

I don’t think war with Iran will happen; the USA’s military is way too stretched at the moment to fight another war. A lot of non-administration neocons have moved away from the Iraq war either conservatively “the administration fucked up and we should have approached Iraq differently, more post-nivation planing” or radically “the militaristic nature of the neoconservative movement is fundamentally flawed” advocating a realistic Wilsonianism instead of neocon international relation policies. (None of those quotes are actually). So I don’t think the political will is there to push for another war even though we’ve been getting the climate of fear being pushed in the media.

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you know what sucks… bush is in office for another 2 years! war with iran might actually happen regardless of what conservatives are doing now. theres another 2 years left.

thank god the conservatives population is bigger than the liberal one.