Tonight I read a FB post from one of my nephews. He’s Korean, adopted when he was a baby by my sister and former brother-in-law 30 years ago. His post was about a suggestion he’d made to the Ellen Degeneres Show about childless couples who are childless by choice.
I said that Ellen and her wife were obviously childless by choice–unless they wanted–and were allowed to–adopt children. Rosie O’Donnell and her wife have children–why shouldn’t any same-sex married couple be allowed to have adopted children?
Is adoption the last barrier same-sex married couples have to equality?
No, being looked at as just another couple that loves each other is the biggest barrier. We label their love as different and so there is lack of equality.
A great many same sex couples adopt children already. i think the last barrier to equality is just social acceptance, which may or may not be a long time coming. They say there’s a sea-change (especially in the US) of peoples’ attitudes toward gay marriage and families, but who knows if that will prove in any way permanent.
Not every state allows same-sex couples to adopt, upf, just as not every state recognizes a same-sex marriage. Some recognize the marriage but won’t allow adoption. It’s a States’ Rights thing; and, yet, our Federal Government is supposed to be based on Democracy, not on Rule by Majority. Just saying.
Welcome back Liz! As far as same sex coiuples adopting children is concerned, my nephew and his partner are going overseas to adopt. Too much red tape here, they claim. It is fairly simple in asia, although russia has recently made it illegal there.
Thank you, obe. There really are restrictions on adoption here–as there should be. But those restrictions should be the same whether or not the married couple is same-sex.
There’s also the idea that same sex-couples don’t stay together for very long. That may have been true in the past when homosexual was a ‘dirty word.’
But, with marriage, the commitment should be recognized and honored as it would be with a hetero-sexual couple. Restrictions should be home, love, and commitment, just as with any married, otherwise childless, couple.
It won’t really change until people stop saying , “that homosexual couple”.
Here in the deep south interracial marriages are not separated so, they are " so and so Smith". Its taken this long for such couples to be just a couple.
The segregation has to end in the eyes of the majority.
I recall hearing stories of black and white married couples being denied adoption. That I think was 10 to 15 years back.
Even we that have zero issues with homosexual couples need to stop referring to them as such and just say that couple or the Smiths.
This is all liberal talk.
Liberals want gays to be treated like everyone else because of that “everyone deserves this and this personal freedom”.
Well, personal freedom can back fire like an old fashioned cannon. Imagine if we switched from christian morality to liberal morality, what if god blows us up or floods us, the what happens? All the gays getting blown up and flooded, along with the people that they accepted as equal and morally “ok”. Besides being blown up and flooded, there could be allot of mosquitoes, or gnats, the rivers turn to blood, frogs, so many damned frogs, etc. It happened once, it can happen again.
I guess I don’t understand ‘dry’ humor any better than I understand sarcasm. Ah, well.
I’m back–at least for now. I’ve been battling battles, trying to get someone–anyone–to stop and think, first, before opening their flapping traps to talk. I’ve come to the conclusion that those of us who try to insert our size 12 shoes into our size 10 mouths will always do it–no matter what.
But there’s more to it than that. Minds are being shaped in ways that we (adults over 30 and under 75?) don’t comprehend. Languages are being developed, both spoken and written, that are based on electronic tools. Ideas are formed by electronic games and what “everybody” says.
There may be value in that, I don’t know and probably won’t live long enough to see the end result. But I certainly understand, better, why there are cultures that hate what’s happening and how it’s changing their world.
And those cultures are part of American culture as well as being apart from American culture.
