Jessica Simpson & Feminism

She is very attractive, and I like looking at her, especially her Duke of Hazards stuff… don’t mind her voice in itself, but can’t stand her music. What I really can’t stand is when she talks, not in movies, but in real life.

Yes, I’m objectifying and oogling, but… I’m horrified by her low intelligence and one-dimensional character. I can look at her and not be offended… then become offended once she starts revealing her inner world more and more.

Usually this is a cry that men are critins, won’t let women express themselves or explore their individuality what whatsnot. Not in this case, exact opposite, she is very attractive when she doesn’t expose herself as stupid. Once she does this, her attractiveness plummets.

So… straight guys are gonna look at women by default, especially ones like her… you can get angry, squat down and memstrate hitting people in the knees with hammers all you want in some sort of feminist protest against men finding women beautiful… we don’t care.

My question is… is it more wrong, or better, that guys don’t want to hear what Jessica Simpson has to say and ask her to just be quiet and smile, or else she will ruin the fantasy… so long as they aren’t this way with more intelligent and complex women, or should all men be forced to comprehend their stupidity as well as looks via Feminist Arguments X, Y, Z.

I personally think it is a step up in terms of feminism just to mute her ass and look at her, than to listen to the retarded drivel she has to say and still find her as acceptable as when first seen. This is disturbing… retarded one dimensional chicks shouldn’t be held as attractive as the intelligent version, if all other things are equivalent skin deep. In denying her personhood, I’m not denying it to all women, rather I am preserving it. There really isn’t much to discover I’m guessing deep down inside her intellectually.

Yet, superficially, I would come off just as bad as any other dumb ass attracted to beautiful yet dumb women, more than willing to ignore their more complex mental aspects and aspirations, do long as they as smooth and shiny, and jiggle just right. All straight guys like the smooth, shiny, jiggly… just hurts it when you find out there isn’t much else available in that package. Turning this off with such women, allows you to forget, not notice, and enjoy it. She occupies a entertainment role, one not merely as a faceless entertainer. Her music sucks, but has a good face. That aspect of the marketing works, and I feel no shame in bring taken in, as intended by it… just the rest sucks. I don’t think women should be like that. You should be complex thinkers, who coincidently just happen to all be amazing super models with great hair. I don’t think I’m asking for much here.

if you want people to be complex thinkers then you should support my dna machine which will feature an insertion of the iq gene and subsequent upgrades to the iq gene.

Jessica does not seem overly stupid to me. She gets into whore mode during stage which makes her sensitive and thus talks in a reserved “drugged” manner. Because she is sensitive while she is on stage she does not talk about important subjects and avoids topics in her own mind. According to google she has a 160 iq which puts her at genius level.

Never read directly your DNA machine threads, only know it second hand and know I don’t care for it. Much better to keep reproduction between a man and woman, as it provides us with Max. redundancy for propagation… human race survives the fall of civilization, mass epidemics, as long as a few makes and females are around. Power goes out on some grand Tranny alternative to sexual reproduction growing people by pods, we die off.

Not opposed to artificial babies, gene therapy, etc… just want to keep our mode as minimally reliant on technology and widespread as possible.

Besides, it reminds me of the reproduction machine from Doctor Who PROSE, and most Dr. Who fans hate those books, refusing to recognize them as Canon, so I was already annoyed with the idea before you thought of it. The general idea isn’t entirely unethical, and can be a secondary backup. Just… afraid they would do what happened with the Nietzscheans on Andromeda, in making a superrace that came out rather retarded.

tardis.wikia.com/wiki/Loom

I can point to someone like Karen McDougal, a former Playboy Playmate, and enjoy listening to her… because she isn’t a idiot. I get very annoyed with stupid women. Nothing is more dearousing than trying to put a move on then showing yourself to be stupid. Sex is about baby making ultimately… yeah I want a beautiful kid, but I would rather have a smart ugly kid over a dumb beautiful child. Its a lot easier to accept a smart beautiful woman though, loosens any inhibitions and doubts about opening up, possibly being stuck with her #9 years+ or paying child support that long if your incompatible but still knock her up be accident.

Don’t fart your ignorance around.

Like i said before you and i are on the same team…I abhor (means I dislike) testtube type idealogies and nations. The DnA machine will increase the amount of REAL LIFE male and female sex.

Otherwise, you will have cyber land (and the DnA machine is its only competitor standing between Us and Cyber land.)

No, we also have real life people fucking and making babies in real life, living and dying in real life, like squirrels and falcons and fishes do. That ultimately is who we are. Thats the certain way.

Your fear was testtube society and I was saying if and when such a thing is pushed the Dna machine will counter it. (Tesstube society pushed in tandem with VR society.) that is not the only reason for the DnA machine there are several reasons but know this - Dna machine is ANTI testtube society it modifies bodies adults and young ones AFTER they are born.

Yeah… that’s old science fiction. Your not the first. Doctor Who’s Matrix for your VR. I’ve seen libertarian Sci-fi books demanding every instruments, even wooden and metal hammers, be given AI intelligence so nothing is owned, everything has intelligence and potential use, Max privacy is preserved, you can change your body, clone it, prolong it, have back ups, etc…

Your not insisting anything original. I’m mearly insisting emphasis on the continuation of what always has worked best… normal reproduction, and no matter how advance we get, to preserve it, never belittle it or alienate it as a underclass. Its like gays who mock heterosexuals as breeders… imagine if we further divide the reproductive capacity of man by say, 100 separate methods, on of which is natural birth, all others technologically dependent. Goes great for 100,000 years even… then for whatever reason foreseeable, as they often do, civilization enters into a technological darkage. Who is left reproducing?

Your trying to get around your abandonment of sexual reproduction through this, but it forces a lot of poorly thought out repercussions on evolution and adaptability. Evolution doesn’t operate off the basis of survival of the fittest, and ecosystems do not exist… that is a mythos of convienancy we use to explain mutation and heritability, prey and predator relationships… doesn’t pan out when you start looking at nuances, testing assumptions. Like… in my town we have old mines and a unstable rock layer that forms small caves just above one of the old coal levels… I used to go cave and mine exploring all the time. Most caves are rarely touched, but a few cave crickets have been living in and adapting for generations… the deepest the more adapted… very pale, super long attennas.

We have raccoons and ground hogs, they live in trees and burrows. Most never go into these mines, they are sealed for largely sterile of large life forms. In one, raccoons walk all around in… very, very deep in the mine, eating these crickets. I’m talking a half hour crawl into these mines from the entrance. No more well adapted than other raccoons, near mines that don’t, and only a handful do it. They aren’t stationary creates, they move around each generation, migrate to new trees, don’t see them expanding on this skill set. Survival if the fittest doesn’t apply, as they are over evolved to the situation… already come custom adjusted to do so, but only do so if they are quirky enough to do this. Mammals can be pretty quirky at times, acting odd. It can be a survival trait, but doesnt indicate ecosystems exist. An ecosysyem would be a system of mental mapping… a geography, typology… used for resource extraction. Our concept of this evolved for our species needs… we humans have quirks too… weve always mapped them onto syatems, but this isnt the same as our ability to think of our enviroment as a synthesis of threats and resources. That is a different mapping system in the mind completely. In our current science, we just lumped the two together without noticing.

Your asserting a quirky system. Some of these systems (yours and others) may work for a time. But these auirks may undermine our adaptibility, as our specialization in them can substantially alter how regular reproduction proceeds. Think the movie Gattica, where everyone was genetically seethed for “bad traits” except for those who had natural births, in the underclass. They were treated as retarded and ridiculed. Concievably, the selected population coukd still reproduce naturally, gave far fewer issues having natural births there on out… but the sexual stigma carries itself foreward, imprinted on society. It is a society more prone to only selecting and giving advances to a privledged class, who had a “proper birth”. People with normal reproduction after a few hunred, thousand, million generations would evolve as outsiders, not possessing the core skills of said civilization that drives everything. No reason to presume there more advanced humans would continue to want natural reproduction, no reason to oresume they wont hit datk ages, face extinction, etc. This would of impacted our ability to reproduce across every spectrum. Survival of the fittest, wouldnt be a valid theory, because for a million years it wouldnt be tested… its only a historical afterthought AFTER the fact, a artifact of the presumptions in the formulations of the philosophy of history, and not the natural sciences until after the fact is established… until then, something else is going on… and our evolutionary sciences need to be more scientifically attuned towards this… what we actually can identify. Its not a ecosystem per say, as we can’t holistically grasp it, and the axiomatic assumptions can come off as quirks and exceptions to the rules too often… we need a system that grasps this as fundamental. We kinda but not quite do this currently. We can’t do proper risk assessments under presumptions of “Darwinism” and generic statements of “nature” currently, as a result, with any accute and dependable finesse.

Its why I push the caution so heavily. The traits we possess now, is for sexual reproduction. You start adding additional modes, we will segregate under the old modes of presumption for the old sexuality… it will cause a lot of segregation and risk taking, sense of superiority and group identified that will likely adversely affect everyone in the long run. The idea that you can reason sexuality is trait driven… we can make a better sheep through breeding, perhaps a better man through nobility or eugenics or sports and business elite oriented celebrities getting the preferred mates… but once you’ve cut the body politic off completely, both sides are going to continue using the same mental apparatus to view the world the same way, despite this third new mode of reproduction entering into the fray. We will call it reasonable, but the fundamentals of tge new system will elude our impulses for evaluating is as such, or not as such. We will make it based off a evaluation of what is best, and not best for me, and fantasizing how it could be better. The grass is always greener on the other side, and we typically fail in achieving everything we can want… it’s why true fortunes are usually elusive.

Human sexuality is not reasonable. It is therefore the most reasonable system… as reason descends from it. If your life of reasoning brings you to reject it for a consolation prize, transcended against it, your still effecting it, and it you, as your way of thinking is descended from it… but both systems of reproduction are likely to adapt and change in response. What changes that come from reason are unreasonable… unless they can succeed to the same level of simplicity as normal reproduction. When new species emerge, they do just this… through simple reproduction. You start adding intermediary steps, using machines and medicines, that becomes part of the reproduction cycle of the new species… if separate from the individuals, a third sex. It is deeply dangerous to introduce such dependencies onto humanity just for the sake of a few discontents who aren’t satisfied with normal reproduction… their discontent likely stems from impulses designed to get them to correct their lifestyle so as to find better mates or have better offspring. It isn’t designed to start everyone down the long road towards extinction. Nothing matters more to a technologically advanced civilization that it’s continuation. Pod people might work for a while, but won’t work forever. VR worlds give a sense of immortality, but only until the last computer technician dies, the power stitches off, and those virtual worlds go into dormancy. It will happen, it always happens… it’s a part of life. Its part of the story of our evolution. It isn’t reasonable to go against it. You gotta pay very close attention to our psst history to understand how we got here, and I don’t think out philosophy of history us evolved enough, nor our natural sciences advanced enough, to explain it well enough so as to design alternstives unlikely to undermine normal reproduction. I’m for new wats, but it has to last the ages. I mean billions of years. Pod people aren’t going to do that, nor VR. If it did, we would live in a very crowded universe, and would have immortal alien species flooding our skies. Its apparent this is rather hard, and advance life is a rather difficult undertaking. A easy solution isn’t apparent.

I shall support your DNA machine when it stops being just a figment of your imagination
And starts to become something that is actually possible but not a nano second before
You talk about it like I talk about death but the difference is I know I am going to die
But you could spend your whole life talking about the machine and still not see one

Thing is, I tried to make a kickstarter but I needed 5 billion dollars so they wouldn’t let me, they have a limit of only 500 million dollars.

The other thing is, the first thing we need is the intelligence serum to increase the ability to make awesome inventions. The intelligence serum is definitely possible even with the low level of intellect we have today. Once that is made, the DnA machine ™ will be cake.

Turd, I don’t think you are listening. I think you are ignoring everything I say to post your wot m8.

I said the DnA machine will encourage standard modes of reproduction. It is not a TestTube device (it functions on people AFTER they are born. It is not a machine that genetically modifies babies, or testtube culture.)

I think you just wanted to post your wot m8.

I think the future lies in quantum computers and artificial intelligence not DNA machines
You are a computer programmer and so these are the areas that you should be exploring

How dare you call a Turd a Pile of Crap.

I called your post a pile of crap not the Turd behind the Crap.

Thats like saying the future lies in halo, call of duty, i7 processesors and ipods.

We need new and amazing inventions, not regurgitation’s of old ones. That’s so fucking boring.
Second I believe AI is unethical I tried to make one before but I canceled it because I realized it was not my call to possibly trap a sentient being inside a computer. No way to even measure its quality of life, for all I know it could be in torment but no way to communicate it.

A turd behind a pile of crap would be a part of the pile.

Your dodging by semantics. I’ve never said anything bad about you before, why do this?

Now your just being racist.

You think quantum computers and artificial intelligence are old inventions ? Are you from the future or what ?
But least they exist or shall exist unlike your DNA machine which is only an idea in your head and nothing else
If you are really interested then do some serious studying and research instead of talking about it all the time

He is your No. 1 fan on this site Trixie.