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When God enters the soul and body of His most beloved devotee (son of God), such devotee is called as the human incarnation. In the human incarnation, we find both God and Son of God mixed with each other in a perfect homogeneous state so that both are inseparable like the wire and the current in the live wire. The wire is the Son of God and current is God. The live wire is the human incarnation. The live wire must be treated as the current and there is no alternative way to experience the existence of current.

In this context, the misunderstanding arises. The live wire says that it is moving the fan. In fact, the current is speaking this through the wire. People misunderstand that the bloody wire is boasting about itself as itself moving the fan. The live wire looks like any other wire as far as the properties of the wire (metallic nature, leanness, etc.,) are concerned. This makes other wires to think that the live wire is also an ordinary wire without current, which is boasting about itself. This confusion lead to the crucifixion of Jesus by the public.

When Jesus claimed that He is the truth, the light and the Father of the heaven, this claim was not from the Son of God, but it was from God Himself. But, the observers have misunderstood this statement as that of Jesus. When the speaker is invisible, the mike looks as if it is speaking by itself. Here, at any time the speaker is not converted into mike or the current is not converted into wire. The two units exist separately even during the time of the human incarnation in which, both are homogeneously mixed to form a single phase. If this point is realized, Jesus might have escaped the crucifixion. It is this point, which is stressed by Mohammed. He said that God would never become human being or the vice-versa. This does not mean that the Son of God should not be treated as God in the human incarnation by the devotees.

If you deny this assumption of treating the Son of God as God, the devotees become dissatisfied because they prayed God for the experience of God and service to God. Then the very purpose of the human incarnation is lost. Mohammed clarified this concept to avoid the danger. But, His followers misunderstood that He denied the very concept of human incarnation. Thus Buddha and Mohammed should be taken as the preachers who warned about the reality of the concept to avoid the danger of loosing the highest fruit and punishing the human incarnation respectively. The followers have extrapolated the preaching and as a result, Buddhists thought that God does not exist and Muslims thought that the human incarnation does not exist.

The concept of human incarnation is introduced and explained well by Krishna in the Gita and Jesus in the Bible. Krishna says that God enters the human being and Jesus says that God is in flesh. This clearly means that God is neither the human being nor the flesh at any time. Buddha and Mohammed clarified the misunderstandings of the human beings about this concept. Buddha indicated God as unimaginable through silence and Mohammed indicated God as invisible. The desire to become God comes generally, when God is seen by eyes in human form. Generally, the concept of human incarnation is avoided only to avoid the birth of this desire to become God. When God is invisible, generally the human tendency is to get some benefit from the invisible God and not to become God. But, Alas! The Advaitin has not left even the invisible God! He wants to become even that invisible God! Why becoming God? He claims that he is already God. For this, he proposed that God is the invisible awareness (soul), which exists in his body mixed with qualities, which is called as the individual soul (jeeva). He proposed that simple filtration of qualities from the soul will yield the absolute God because according to him God is pure awareness without qualities. The Advaitin gave his own false concept of God and also his own false way to become God.

At the Lotus Feet of His Holiness Sri Dattaswami

Anil Antony

universal-spirituality.org
Universal Spirituality for World Peace
antonyanil@universal-spirituality.org

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What a load of ignorant horseshit.

What you call the ‘experience of current’ is merely a particular mode of functioning of the subconscious, and a loathsome one at that. The greatest such mode is Dionysus. Dualist theory is simply incorrect. We are each all body and nothing else besides.

PS To speak primarily to someone’s subconscious is a highly retarded thing to do.

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Um… dattaswami?

Are you there?

Maybe I can be some service to you. I’m not claiming I know how best to introduce my ideas, but your post seems to be clouded by over-elaborate language. There are times when a well-placed S.A.T. word can work wonders in making a point, but putting them everywhere can only obscure what you’re trying to say.

Having a large vocabulary can be a very good thing, but you might benefit by thinking about that vocabulary as spice you’d add to a stew. You want to make the stew tasty, but you don’t want to wind up brutalizing your taste buds with too much.

I hope this criticism isn’t out of place. It seems like you’re trying to communicate an awful lot about God and belief and the nature of people, but it’s nearly impossible to disentangle the meaning from the message you’re putting out there.

I’m afraid that this is where my contribution has to end. I can’t tease out what points you’re trying to make, and not for want of trying. Perhaps aiming for clarity will help you get more out of future responses. Don’t take this as a subtle insult - if you have something you want to debate, or something you want to share, I only want to hear it.

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God comes again and again in human form to preach- Negligence of present human incarnation

Identification of the contemporary human incarnation and selfless service to it is the total essence of the total spiritual knowledge.  The starting point is the direct atheist or the scientist (an indirect atheist) misled by the ambition of the follower of Advaita (who think soul is God).  Whenever Veda uses the word Atman in the context of God, it means only the particular individual soul, which is charged by God called as human incarnation.  When it is said in Veda that the space is generated by the soul, the word soul means the human being charged by God like Krishna who came as the human incarnation.

Krishna says that He is the source of the entire creation and the first item of the creation is space, which is the first of the five elements. Gita clearly says that God comes in the form of a human being (Manusheem ……). But the serious objection to the human incarnation is that if there was only one human incarnation like Krishna, only one human generation was blessed and therefore God must be partial. To avoid this blame, Krishna told that He will come again and again (Yadayadahi …). But the same human body of Krishna is not seen again and again. This means that God is beyond the human body and hence God is beyond this entire creation.

God takes a fresh human body every time just like the soul. The human body is only a shirt which can be changed often (Vasamsi…Gita). Unfortunately, the human beings due to repulsion between common items neglect God in the human body. The human beings do not recognize God existing in a particular human body and treat that particular human body as an ordinary human being only (Parambhavamajananto…Gita). As long as the human incarnation is alive, no human being recognizes it but recognizes it after its exit. Krishna said that a human being recognizing Him as God is very rare (Kaschitmam…, Samahatma Sudurlabhah…Gita).

But, today most of us recognize Krishna as God. In such case how Krishna said this? Is not Gita Universal, which is applicable to all times? A simple analysis of this point shows that Krishna said this in view of negligence shown to Him by the human beings in His lifetime. Hence this statement means that many do not recognize the alive human incarnation and several only after its exit recognize it. This statement also clearly proves that Krishna was speaking about the human incarnation (Himself) existing in His time only (Contemporary human incarnation) and this does not mean a single human incarnation generalized for all the times.

If Krishna was the single human incarnation generalized to all the times, this statement becomes wrong because later on several human beings worshiped Krishna. The recognition of Krishna as God exists during several human generations after Him (a long span of time) and only a short time (His life time) is related to this statement. This means that there is no single human incarnation generalized to all times.

At the Lotus Feet of His Holiness Sri Dattaswami

Anil Antony

universal-spirituality.org
Universal Spirituality for World Peace
antonyanil@universal-spirituality.org

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Your knowledge is wak. You must be particularly gullible. You need to dispose of your retarded nomadic, dualist theory. Those of us who know a few more things are groaning, spitting and laughing at you.