Just thought the anti-Jewish gun-toting conspiracy-mongers might be interested to hear about this organisation.
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jews_for_t … _Ownership
Who is really behind the gun lobby?
The Jews, obviously. They are behind everything. As are the Christians. And the Muslims. And the Feminists. And the Liberals. And the Socialists. And the Capitalists. And…
You get the idea.
It’s a false dichotomy.
Neoconservatism advocates both Zionism and gun rights, but Jews vote 70-80% Democrat.
It’s more complicated than what first meets the eye. Some people play both sides on purpose in order to mediate between opponents.
You could argue the same thing applied to the Wars on Terror and in Iraq. Many people engage in reverse psychology just to provoke their opponents into taking the positions people really want.
On the other hand, people will hide behind plausible deniability and sarcasm if they get accused of being serious while at a disadvantage.
The same thing applies to affirmative action, multiculturalism, globalism, and free trade. They play both sides just to get both sides to clash against one another while sarcastically saying they don’t know what others are talking about. Others must be paranoid conspiracy theorists.
Holy bleep Batman, did you see this?
Germany Presents: ‘Jew in the Box’
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If it weren’t for nukes, we wouldn’t see crap like this. (Was that a double negative?)
Think about it.
This is so sick–as is the very real existence of racism in the US–but I don’t see the connection between racism and ‘nukes.’
HELLLOOOOOOOO! It’s in GERMANY. wait; maybe you knew that…
…I don’t think there is a connection between those two: ‘think’ because I don’t remember now…
What is this thread about?
Eurotrash talking about their anti-semetic rhetoric.
Leave the Jews alone, your ‘people’ (pick a categoical characterization) have enough crimes of their own to worry about.
Europeans and liberals hating Jews = Nazi hating Jews = traditional fear and xenophobia and racism regarding the jews.
Just drop the anti-semitism, anti-arabism, anti-everythingism. Guns aren’t a ethnic issue, it’s a component of a healthy democracy issue- be you for or against them, race isn’t a issue here. That’s the discussion in regards to weapons (in nations following Cromwellian doctrine- England is no longer part of the debate, because they took themselves effectively out of the democratic genepool by systematically removing their essential freedoms and are evolving into a weird ass science fiction dystopia), not a means for falsely qualifying racism.
Liberals talk about racism so much that I don't think they could function without being able to participate in it. The Jews have been especialy designated (along with 'red necks', but that's another issue) as a group that it's ok to persecute for when a liberal wants to get their hate on.
How ironic, that the Christian bigot who hates homosexuals is talking about liberals in the exact same way racists (liberal or otherwise) talk about Jews.
It’s almost as though he’s trying to be a hypocrite.
I wonder if you have heard of something called irony?
My reason for mentioning the Jews in this way was not anti-Semitic, but rather, was pointing up the absurdity of those who are both anti-Semitic and pro-gun.
Who’s that?
Yeah, everybody plays both sides, in manners of some degree: the political pundits are obsessed with ideology, the economists are obsessed with charts of unemployment showing out of line or "normal" levels of unemployment, and critics point to the tendency to factor in any variables that may make a difference in social/psychological appreciation of the facts.
Everything is either digested or regurgitated , in seemingly eternal on the air debates for public consumption, in an effort to air out the bad smell of over-indulgence, impression is everything, and there is nothing like on-going debates to create the sense of having reached some kind of conclusion.
The only conclusion which can be drawn from issues of race, gun-control, immigration, and medical care is that yeah, blah blah blaah, something will work itself out sometime.
What the bleep is this word beginning with ‘N’?
There are two types of people who think this word is ok. (Maybe 3).
One: Leftists/Progressives/Liberals. (The American varieties.)
Two: Those who aren’t in the above group but haven’t a clue as what harm they are doing by perpetuating it’s use.
Three: we’ll leave it at two, for now. (The first two should be enough to blow a few gaskets.)
Everyone in Israel is armed.
It’s basically an army population. Many might not remember, but Israel faced a problem with violence some time ago and they solved it by basically giving people guns.
When you have to serve in the army you obviously pick up the ability to shoot as well.
Please don’t make me have to lock this thread, so less personal attacks please people.
Personal Insult.
Fourth Warning.
One-Week Ban.
And yet, no different to the repeated insults directed at me in the thread you locked.
You are a pathetic excuse for a man. Banning me will not change that.
All I can do is try.
Use of multiple accounts to circumvent ban.
As previously Warned would happen:
Permanently Banned.
I forgive him for the bigoted statement. If I forgive him, can we issue it down to just a short ban and Pav, you can come up here to Weirton tomorrow and slap me around a little bit without me fighting back as compensation to you?
Though there are other posters who are English on this site, and even paranoid English posters, he is the foremost of them, and we shouldn’t loose his voice in discussions as a potential balance to the debate. For region of world+ ideology alone we should make a effort to keep him around to we can have a more inclusive and balanced discussion- so we can be more cosmopolitian, people of the world.
I forgive him for calling me bigoted, he was trained to think as such. British people in general have this issue from what I’ve seen, just like the prejudice of Chinese differs. It’s cultural conditioning- he felt like calling it out as a point of differentiation, and it signals to me I need to spend more time with him on the nuances of my position, so I can convince him of my position, as well as give him a chance to convert me… it’s a two way street, and you just closed down that street.
I’m Catholic, I get mistreated all the time, I learned to deal with it, much as many Jews have learned to deal with the discrimination. It’s why the supreme court in the US is run by nothing but Jews and Catholics now… we end up trying harder, and pay more attention…
My request is this… ban him for a say, a week like you said, and then 6 months to being able to post only in the Rant House- he can call me bigot all day there, and I will call him foul stuff in return, and the sacredness of the society forum here will be untouched… and he and I will continue to evolve our outlooks of live, increasing philosophy instead of dissolving it.
Maia, statistically, most gun Violence is by members registered on the left… or from neighborhoods with strong liberal voting blocks in the US… the bulk of the population in the US that owns firearms is more conservative, and therefor much less anti-semetic. I admit I don’t know what English or European gunownership vs anti-semetic stances are… but in the US, most of the ‘backwoods, uneducated people’ are not anti-Semitic. Yes, some of their forefathers might of mildly been, but it was never a hot topic in the us, the major race issue was White vs Black, and in most areas the Whites have largely abandoned Racial based prejudice, and now it’s just a cultural showdown of black culture vs white culture… which plenty of racial black people being part of the white culture, and vice versa, many white people being in the black culture.
Most of the school shootings we get are from students who parents are dems. Likewise, the shooting violence tends to stick to black neighborhoods. They are notorious for sticking together generation after generation- which is the custom only for recent immigrants, but it’s expected to be broken up by the second if not third generation. A example, Harlem, New York City has been a historic immigrant neighborhood, and they are expected to have their crime and mafia brought over from the old world… but every ethnic group from there moved out… the blacks just hunched down and refused to move, and became increasingly more and more impoverished and pissed. Everyone else spread out. I visit formerly ethnic neighborhoods in say, Pittsburg, such as a old polish neighborhood, and you’ll find anyone but Polish people. You visit a black neighborhood, it remains black forever, and it goes downhill, and then people get shot, and then there are civil rights marches, etc… it becomes a tiresome joke after a while.
If you live in a bad place, MOVE. Most gun violence comes from the democratic party culture… and it’s one of irresponsibility.
I don’t think the Jews have much to do with anything in terms of guns… they have a culture of investment in industry… but it needs to be understood though they have a culture of education like the Catholics do, they are NOT the most successful ethnic group in the US, the Greeks are. The Jews are the historic scapegoats of racism and ignorance, and we imported it to a degree in the US. Most Americans are not Anti-Semetic, most aren’t really even that racist. They just want safe neighborhoods. We don’t want to be left in the lurch like in Italy where violence is outlawed, where we can’t legally do anything about men breaking into our houses and stealing stuff… or in England where only a select few can own firearms. It’s not good for our safety, and it’s not good for our long term independence. Once you go down that road, a faction can rise up and step on the people, like with the Nazis or the Turks, or the Maoist in China, or the Soviets in Ukraine.
Statistically speaking, we can’t blame the jews. It’s MODERN liberal thinking that is at the root of it. The racist aspects are dissolving, it’s pretty much only surviving because it’s politically advantageous to do so… these neighborhoods would of fallen apart via market forces two generations ago if allowed to- and the population would have much lower crime in general, and more wealth- as people would be encouraged to succeed instead of living in ethnic ghettos with severe cultural distrust for people who dress and speak a certain way.
This is something Dave Chappelle or Carlos Mencia could explain really quick. It’s something that’s being picked up more and more when people look at Anti-Irish rhetoric in the US back in the 1800s and then today… we’ll joke about the Irish, but it’s friendly (though people from Ireland tend not to get it’s friendly, they think the US hates them, they don’t grasp it’s what ethnic groups do in the US on a friendly basis). The Irish stopped being picked on once they became as landed as the rest of the population… once they no longer were a pity group. The jews never really were a pity group, nor the gypsies… they were always self sufficient, because they had no choice… hence why they blend in, and why they both have done so well in the US (to the point most people don’t even know Gypsies live in the US, they don’t live like the ones in Europe do, they live like everyone else). Do we have survival of ethnic jokes for both groups? Yes… that doesn’t go away. But it’s good humored, and expect it back in turn.
Jews are not the center of warfare, of killing, etc. I’ve never had issue with Jewish gangs, never had a jew try to steal my lawnmower, never had a jew try to shoplift. They join the military, and they do civic work, they run business. They contribute. Wish there weren’t so many Jewish Lawyers, it’s a tad bit unnerving, but none the less… they are in general a good people. They welcome you into the synagogue for events when they have them without the slightest bit of hesitation or xenophobia, or desire to convert you. I have fond memories of them, and appreciate their contributions.
Is there a Ethnic issue with Guns? Yes, but it’s just a statistical mishap… the left farmed the black community for several generations, keeping them poor and impoverished… they turned away from the outside world and turned more and more to violence. However, people move out of such communities everyday and lead normal, even inspiring lives- people no different from the average American. The culture of drugs and guns in such communities really needs to end, but I don’t think it can given how entrenched they are. It’s going to literally come down to finding a way of closing the communities down and getting them to spread out, moving them into less violent, more prosperous communities (which is pretty much anywhere else at this point).
Outside of Warsaw, I can’t recall any armed Jewish Community in western or Central Europe, and that violence was Jew on Jew, it was Jew on Nazis, and was very justified. There is no reason to drag them into this. I don’t think the Jews in Europe are arming themselves for anything, they are not here.