Some people say that it is okay to use such words like asshole, retard, fuck you while discussion, especially if one disagrees with the other one, because these are just words.
Okay, i got it.
But, may i ask those people if they use the same words while arguing with their bosses or parents?
If one’s mother or father disagree with him, is it okay to call one’s parents asshole or fuck you, given that these are just words?
I am sure some brave people would be doing that, because they are not hypocrite, follow their inner voice always and behave the same in all circumstances.
I usually say whatever I’m thinking no matter who is listening. That being said, I don’t often think that someone is being an asshole. But when I do, I may call them an asshole at that time. Usually, it’s because they are. Now, there are some people who jump to this way too quickly, and they abandon reason way too soon. Those people are…well…assholes. Hope this helps.
Actually, there was a period in my life when I told far worse stuff to my parents, something that I am ashamed of now. But I didn’t do it out of bravery, nor did I really mean it, I only did it to hurt them.
zinnat what’s the point of this question? Does the fact that one can lose their job for calling their boss an asshole make the boss not an asshole? Are you saying an environment in which you are forced to be submissive to somebody who is possibly a moron for the sake of your own survival, an environment in which telling the truth might fuck up your entire life, is somehow superior to an environment in which honesty is permitted, aka that we should treat people on forums exactly like we would treat our bosses and parents?
Just words, well I do not think of my friends as my parents nor do I think of my siblings as my bosses(although 3 would love to tell me what to do).
Is it hypocritical to not call your friends mom or dad?
We do not treat everyone the same due to relation.
Besides that ,if I ever thought to say anything like that to my mother, she would backhand me quicker then you could blink .
I do classify people and there are categories; I know exactly where jerkdom leaves off and prickhood begins (at 6 on a scale of 1-10); I can tell a bastard from an asshole (one is of interpersonal behaviour, the other of societal attitude); I know a moran from an idjit. (I don’t say ‘retard’; that’s insulting to the intellectually challenged) I use the terms sociopath and psychopath in their accepted general meanings; refer to the craziness of politics, the madness of war and the insanity of the human race (but treat clinical mental illness with thoughtful compassion.)
I respect words - even the naughty ones.
I don’t often talk to my parents - and they can’t talk back. One was nice, the other was a mean bastard. I didn’t say that to his face, except that one time. … I was surprised that you really do see stars, just like in the cartoons, when struck quite hard upside the head. I never called my bosses anything but ‘Doctor’ - but then, they were not very much else - more or less jovial or serious; more or less attentive or distracted, more or less approachable - not one idjit, bastard or asshole in the lot.
On internet forums, there are more types than persons. We play roles; we try on avatars; it’s a kind of group therapy. And some of us, let’s face it, self-medicate to excess.
The self-awareness is there now. No need to keep the shame. If you did it to hurt them, you may have also been doing it because you may have been feeling hurt in some way. What is anger but hurt turned inwards. You’ve just gone up a rung in my estimation. Self awareness can be quite beautiful to see, from my estimation.
Did you mean to say this as you did,AofC? Unless someone is really prepared to lose their job for a good cause, like a whistleblower might, who do you think might be thought of as the AH? Certainly not the boss though he may be one but not necessarily because the other called him one.
I tend to think that Zinnat was being facetious and mocking and/or being ironic.
I am sure some brave people would be doing that, because they are not hypocrite, follow their inner voice always and behave the same in all circumstances.
Salute to them for their bravery.
What does cursing people out have to do with bravery, AofC, especially on a forum? It may be no more than having a sense of powerlessness in the moment or no more than relaxing the mind to the point where it is beyond real thinking and just reacts.
Who is to know when face to face with some others just how truly brave (if one wants to call it that - I might call it imprudent or lacking practical wisdom), these same people are - that is, of course, unless they’re drunk out of their minds.
One does not have to be a “hypocrite” in order to follow rational behavior. Refraining from what one might choose to say, what one might really think and feel is not being a hypocrite. It’s having intelligence and reason.
As for “following one’s inner voice” well, we know the tragedy and chaos that can lead to.
No, Zinnat, I believe was being mocking and ironic, AofC.
This one [of course] has dasein written all over it.
We all live different lives. Sometimes very different lives. Lives that others [perhaps] are not even able to imagine. And in these vastly varied lives, we all have more or less contact with people who can and do make our lives…miserable.
But: in any number of contexts we are not able to huff and puff at them because the consequences can be dire. Out in the “real world” for example.
So, we can come in here – a “virtual world” – and scapegoat others.
It may well be just one more rendition of this:
He was like a man who wanted to change all; and could not; so burned with his impotence; and had only me, an infinitely small microcosm to convert or detest. John Fowles
Was that from Daniel Martin? I can’t remember a lot of the book but I do remember loving the book and I remember so loving his character. He made me cry.
