Just because... does not = Trump is good

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Just because Hillary Clinton sucks doesn’t mean trump is good. Just because Europe let in too many immigrants doesn’t mean trump is good. Just because Obama was weak on foreign policy doesn’t mean trump is good. Just because the west has debt doesn’t mean trump is good. Just because things aren’t perfect and 100% peachy and idyllic all the time doesn’t mean trump is good.

Trump has brazenly lied on many occasions, even when caught he simply stares you in the face and lies. “I never said I would pay the legal fees of that protester”, “I never said women should be punished for having an abortion”, “I never said I would order US troops to violate the law”… “I never made fun of that disabled reporter”, …And now of course from his campaign, “No, his wife didn’t blatantly plagerize Michelle Obama’s speech”.

This kind of immaturity is contagious.

Trump said he wants to have “religious tests”, build a giant fucking wall, institute trade protectionism, kill family members of terrorists, expand torture, track Muslims in a database, turn US foreign policy of military support for allies into a mafia game of demanding protection fees, give many more countries nuclear weapons… We’re talking about cutting down the US in size of global influence and economy, as if this is somehow ideal. Trump blames Obama for cutting down the US economically and in influence but this is essentially Trump’s own plan.

Trump rejects the value of individual treatment and valuing the individual over their group status, in particular with groups that are not chosen; therefore he rejects the basis of the principle of freedom, which helps to explain his fascist appeal.

Just because you’re scared or upset about things doesn’t mean you should elect Hitler.

I’m sick of all this fucking excluded middle fallacy, otherwise known as black and white thinking. What the fuck has happened to these masses of people anyway, to buy into this nonsense?

“I want to kill the family members of terrorists (innocent men, women and children)”. The fact that this statement alone didn’t end Trump’s campaign immediately only speaks to the deep insanity in anyone who could still support him.

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Not saying trump is good, just saying

Trump = No WW3
Hillary = WW3

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Hillary is closer to Hitler, as she would start WW3.

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:laughing:

Let me fix that for you.

Clinton= World War III guaranteed.
Trump= World War III guaranteed.

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On what possible basis of thinking or evidence could you base this claim? Is this just something that popped into your head out of nowhere and you clung to it because it seemed “deep”, or justified your pro-Trumpness?

I’m sure you have extensive reasons for thinking this, do go ahead and present them. I’m sure you’re not just pulling shit out of your ass for no other reason than you happened to find it in there one day.

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Edit: and the fact you amended your own statement like that shows you understand that what you said was stupid and unjustified.

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Stop saying stupid shit just because it sounded profound to you for the two and a half seconds you bothered to consider it. Seriously start doing some fucking thinking, please.

Do you really want to be like this stupid narcissistic troll HaHaHa? Yeah, you’re in great company there.

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I never amended my statement, unlike politicians I stand by what I say.

Trump would probably not start WW3, Putin likes him. Trump isn’t a warmonger, he is a fascist. Americans will be trapped in bubbles with trump, prevented from interacting with the outside world. Americans will have no rights.

Hillary is a warmonger and obedient to the bankers.
She will start WW3 in less than 2 years.

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Business isn’t the solution to the current state of the world. I hope Clinton gets elected, but the truth is that even she won’t mean resolution - resolution requires something like news media reporting anyone as trees and planets.

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You’re crazy.

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What is your IQ again exactly?

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Business is what makes the world turn however you can’t have an economy that impoverishes sixty percent of the population so that only forty percent or less are the only ones enjoying all the benefits.

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You clarified it immediately afterward with a comparison of Hilary to Hitler.

So “obedient to bankers” means “will start WW3 in less than 2 years”? How on earth did you make that conceptual leap?

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Again, it’s all reactionary non-thinking. It’s amazing Trump is able to hijack so many people’s minds. This fact alone is sufficient reason to be suspicious of his supposed “outsider” status.

Trump stands for nothing except being against things, it’s the typical GOP mantra. Based on fear, anxiety, anger, disliking change, and paranoias. “Be afraid of Muslims; be afraid of immigrants; be afraid of taxes; be afraid of trade; be afraid of war refugees; be afraid of peace; be afraid of the classically liberal values of equality and tolerance”.

Be afraid of anything except guns, of course. Guns are just fine, apparently.

And by the way, if an illegal immigrant took your job, then I’m betting you have deeper problems in your life the simply the fact that an illegal immigrant took your job. If you have a job where illegal unskilled labor is able to “steal” it, then it’s time to look in the mirror.

Further on immigration and why it’s so stupid to blame immigrants as scapegoats, immigrants (legal and illegal) pay taxes and generate economic activity. Illegal immigrants work jobs most people don’t want and couldn’t afford, they contribute payroll deductions to taxes in most cases anyway despite not being eligible for any of the benefits they’re paying into, like Medicare and social security, as well as sales and property taxes of course. There is a line 4 million people long to come here legally. Most illegal immigrants are in that line, waiting and working while they wait.

thefiscaltimes.com/2015/04/1 … 118B-Taxes

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Youre crazy. Trump didn’t hijack my my mind. Im simply telling you the facts. Trump and Putin are gonna get along just fine, there’s gonna be no WW3 between them…but Hillary, is the lady who “urged them to bomb”.

Do you even know that war is good for the banks? And you never told me your IQ…

Either way, America is doomed, unless citizens give themselves the power to vote for someone they actually want.

The doom of America is imminent.
[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V_bJ1uZKO3U[/youtube]

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So your conspiracy theory is “bankers want war, Hilary does what bankers say, therefore Hilary = war with Russia”.

You sill haven’t provided a single reference of fact on any of this, other than your paranoid opinion about “bankers”.

And yes, Trumpism has hijacked your mind, from the looks of it. As I said, anyone who can hear Trump say he wants to kill innocent men, women and children and still you support him, is pathologically insane.

And to any extent that “bankers” have influence in politics, it’s not going to extend to lighting off global thermonuclear war. International banking makes money through massive loans and economic warfare, sometimes this involves open combat as an outcome. For evidence you can read Confessions of an Economic Hitman, a very good book. But to conclude that the fact of western neocolonial international financial and banking interests extends to “global thermonuclear war with Russia” is retarded. Hillary has as much incentive to preserve the status quo as Obama did. Same with Bill Clinton too for that matter.

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What’s wrong with people being known as trees and planets? Don’t you think people anywhere in the world would be inspired by being known as such?

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Youre crazy. Bankers run all of the world goverments except Russia.
Do you think Bush actually declared any wars? No he was ordered to do so duh.

Noone except insane idiots wanted Hillary to get elected, yet she got nominated Why? Because her campaign had more funding from the bankers.

Everyone knew the election was gonna be between Trump and Sanders, and thanks to morons like you, the election is between Hillary and Trump, a lose-lose situation.

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Like I said earlier, rainforest destruction. And look how people treat our own Planet.

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It isn’t conspiracy that Hillary Clinton is financed and in bed with banks. Gtfo! :laughing:

Also, both in World War I and World War II banks conspired in financing both wars. [Financing all sides]