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Know a man’s values, and you know the man.
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What a man professes to value may not be what he actually values. Hypocrisy abounds.
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See what a man actually does and you can see his actual values.
and the peeping tom cried: “but officer, I was only trying to see what he valued…”
-Imp
Nice twist, Imp.
How can this apply to PoR?
This applies to PoR…
PoR is confusing…
Xander,
This is what Heraclitus said, which is somewhat close to your thinking,
“…a man’s character is his fate.” (frag 119)
But his thought is complex. The translation doesn’t quite get it. He literally says that a man’s “ethos”, (which includes the idea of values but also customs, accustomed place, disposition), is his “daemon”, which most translate as “fate”. The ancient concept of “daemon” was really a spirit, which in some thinking watched over a person in this life and lead to a judgment in the afterlife. So Heraclitus ostensibly seems to be agreeing with you, that in the end, lived character is that by which you are lead and judged.
Dunamis
But just because I tend to give out al lot of money to charities on a regular basis does not necessarily mean that I truly place a ton of value on being generous.
Perhaps I only give to charities to keep from feeling guilty. At that point, I’m not valuing being a generous person.
Hence, actions do not [/i]allways[/i] give one a clear picture of a person’s true value. 
just my 2 cents…
I think that was a full dollar.
Nice work, B.
Youc an only properly judge character by looking at all of your actions. For instance, if you weren’t really a generous person, but you gave money out of guilt, then the rest of your actions would reflect your selfishness. It might even be little things like not giving panhandlers money, or cutting in line, or hoggin stuff at a company lunch. If you looked at only your charitable donations, you’d get a false impression.
Timm,
Excellent point, provoking the ultimate hypothetical conclusion of an all-seeing eye of God, really.
Dunamis
So could we say that no man knows enough about another man to correctly judge him?
(Except the Shadow. He knows.)
shadow asked me to tell you that she is in fact female.
A rare compliment…thanks de’trop. 
However, I barely have 2 cents to give anyone…heck, I honestly do not have even 2 cents in my wallet at this very moment.
At anyrate, while I may talk of/about having money as if I value it, my spending-habits might suggest otherwise. So in this case, I probably owe xanderman a buck.
Ummm… Sure!
Do you have PayPal?
Should have asked for his credit card number…muwahahah…
hehe…
this reminds me:
a member at philosophyforums.com once used pay-pal to send Paul (the admin) $0.52. Why this amount? Because Pay-Pal charges like $0.50 (I’m probably incorrect, but I’ll use “50 cents” for sake of argument) for the use of their service. The member thought that this would leave Paul with exactly 2 cents after pay-pal took it’'s fee. He was therefore giving Paul “his two-cents”…
I’m not making this up.
Ironically, Pay-pay rounded the amount of money to the nearest 10th of a dollar, leaving Paul with nothing.
The Credit-Card companies have a minimum age requirement of 18 in order to get a credit card.
But, if you will mail me a postage stamp, I’ll mail you the 2 cents!
Exactly. And thus do not judge. And no earthly “justice” is ever just. And any hopes of universal justice for all the world is catergorically a delusion. And further if you do not believe in a just God and a Judgement Day then justice is a futile pursuit and it will be, rationally speaking, far more profitable to learn to live under injustice and even to exploit it for one’s advantage, for such is what life is.
sounds a lot like the Bible’s philosophy, if you ask me.