Laws...don't obey them

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You know what? Laws really piss me off. I heard this the other day that got me thinking… “Laws, there never was one that wasn’t broken”. Now think about that. Really think about it. It’s true. But what does that mean? I’m going to explain what it means to me.
We live in a three dimensional world which by its nature involves duality. That’s why it appears that there is a right and wrong. There is, however, no such thing as right and wrong. It was just invented by someone a long time ago. Think about quantum physics. All that exists and all that does not exist is actually the same thing. At the subatomic level everything (and this is my basic understanding) is merely energy which, according to the First Law of Thermodynamics, can neither be created nor destroyed. In this sense, everything, everyone, every table every chair, every cloud, every photo, every thought, every empty space is one and the same. All is one.
Now you are entitled to your own speculations about the universe and the point of our existence, but indulge me mine. I believe that the only reason that humankind exists is to experience. It doesn’t matter what or how or when, all the details are irrelevant. Humans exist as a kind of experiment for all that is to experience itself subjectively. If everything is one thing, how could one possibly know what one is, unless one was able to “separate” from the rest of everything and look back on oneself? Now i’m talking figuratively, for if all that is and all that isn’t is just energy and we are all one, how could we possibly detatch or separate? That’s the trick, we just trick ourselves to “think” we’re separate… separate from all that is, from the source, from the universe, from God. That’s why we are here living in this three-dimensional world, a world of limitation, a world of separation from the truth of who we are… all we are… all that is. We agreed to this on some level, as a way to make sure that we would fully experience our separateness from all that is. So, we are here to just experience whatever there is to experience, whether its experiencing what its like to miss a bus, experiencing what its like to be a single mum, experiencing what its like to receive a gift or get 85% on a school project or … you get my point. Every day we are here is just to experience whatever there is.

But what does that have to do with the Law? Well it has to do with everyone’s individual choices. See if i’m here to experience anything and everything, then what I choose to experience is my choice. (That’s what God was talking about in the bible I reckon… that “Free Will” thing). What right does any other person, institution or any “God” have to tell me what to experience? None. That’s my beef with Christianity (i don’t know the details about other religions so I won’t comment). Why do Christians say God gave us “free will” but yet there are things that you should or shouldn’t do that will get you to heaven? I don’t need to diss Christianity, everyone knows its got some major problems. Anyway, back to my point. No other being on the earth or elsewhere has the right to tell me what I should experience or not. That’s why Laws are bogus.
“But what about killing people? How can you say that’s not wrong?” I know, I can hear your questions already. Notice I said “no other being”. There is one being that can tell you what is right and wrong. It’s you. You see even though there is no right and wrong, there IS a right and wrong (because of the duality of our dimension) that exists in you. You decide what is right and wrong for you. How do you do that? Well, you FEEL it. A good way to decide the way you feel about something is to ask how you would feel if it were done to you… “do unto others” ring any bells? So in regards to killing people… hmm, how would I feel if I were murdered by someone? Well i’d be pissed off that someone ended my life when that’s not what I had decided I wanted. So do I think murder is right? Not for me. I won’t do it. Same goes with a whole range of other things. You decide what is right for you by seeing if it feels good to you. Sometimes your feelings may not be the same as those of other people. Take sex. If you feel good having sex with alot of people and it makes you happy and you love it, do it, have fun! If you don’t feel like having sex with lots of people, or before marriage, or with people of the opposite sex, don’t do it. Have fun not doing something and doing something else!! Just do what makes you happy, that is what is right for you. So you see that Laws are just people (or society or whatever you call it) impinging on your right to experience. There are so many issues where this kind of logic is applicable… drugs, slavery, different religions, abortion… the list is endless. Just do what you want to do, and let everyone else do what they want to do.
In my ideal world, children would develop such a strong sense of their own right and wrong that Laws would be unnecessary because people would grow up taking responsibility for everything they do rather than passing the buck to the government, the Law or religion. If there were no laws there would be no crime. That would mean you could do whatever you wanted. That is freedom. That is free-will. That is what everything is all about.

The funny thing is, it doesn’t have to be “my ideal world”. Everything has to do with our inherent belief that there isn’t enough for everyone. Scarcity. It dominates free-market economics, international politics, environmental issues. Everyone is sure that there isn’t enough for everyone, that’s why we fight over everything (an “i gotta get some” mentality). Just stop and imagine that everyone in the world could have anything and everything they ever wanted. A world where abundance was abundant (!) and no one ever lacked anything they wanted. Could that be our world? Yes it could. I urge you to research Zero Point Energy/Free Energy or the Disclosure Project on the internet… we possess the technology to make energy free. Think how that could not only solve our environmental problems but destroy scarcity on this planet along with the “i gotta get some” mentality. If everything was free why would we fight? We wouldn’t. A peaceful existence among humankind is so possible.

If you have an opinion on any of this please post it- i’d love to know.

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Have you ever imagined a world without laws?

You should study history and think about what laws are worth.

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Anarchy is a beautiful utopian ideal. The fact that it has never worked is the creation of rules, then laws. I suppose one could hope the ideal realized, but history isn’t on your side.

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I walked into a courtroom and etched in stone, with no quotation reference, it said: “Where Law Ends: Tyranny Begins.”

Too ambiguous to really defend in anything. Maybe they’re trying to put simply their criticism of the contradictions from idealists. You cannot just be an “abolitionist.” You can’t say “down with the system” if you can’t suggest a system in its place. At one point I was so obsessed with revolution. Now I feel like I climbed out of a bad trip.

Think of the dominance of adolescence in these idealist groups. It seems we’re in psychological need during adolescence to say “to hell with everything.” And during this sort of intellectual molting, we’re not at a point to consider the real mechanics of our claim.

Even in speculation, there are very positive things to come out of these positions: Strong arguments toward government conspiracy. (Yes, there’s government conspiracy. There always was. Whom can sanely deny that?); The exacerbation of rules with sociopolitical degeneration; Inefficiencies due to poor co-operation; And the risk of genocide from all these factors.

If you can personally drudge out of your garage one of these “zero point energy” apparatuses, or rigorously prove it in some other way, then you need no argument from me. Getting energy from nothing will turn both philosophy and science on its head. But otherwise, I think your views need to be further fleshed out before getting to the next step of serious appeal.

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thanks for your replies! I’ve enjoyed reading them. I must admit that I was quite fed up when I wrote that a few days ago! I’m living in Shenzhen in China, and it’s been fascinating and frustrating to see how the law affects people’s lives here. Anyway, I guess what I wanted to say was that there is really no question in my mind about laws. I know that in a practical sense its just silly to think that we could do without them. I suppose what i’m advocating is just greater use of individual discernment when it comes to the law. People just seem to obey the law without question because its the law. There isn’t enough individual reflection on the values behind those laws. I’m not saying everyone has to think long and hard about whether they’re going to jaywalk or not. It just frustrates me that lawmakers and law-abiders stick by out-dated, prejudiced or just plain wrong laws, while at the same time legislating new ones that so obviously serve other purposes.

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I consider “It’s the law” to be begging the question, much like “because I said so.” There must be a reason why it’s the law. It’s the law because it’s the law?

Perhaps the structure of fallacies is there to exist as a constitution between philosophers in general. If a ruler is consistently fallacious: Revolt.

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thinkpossibilities,

I was just speaking to a friend about China the other day. She has a friend that came from there that now lives in New York City. He has nothing good to say about the Chinese communist system. I suggested that many this man has a criminal mentality (in China) and maybe that’s why he’s so happy living in the richest city on Earth.

However, I felt like I was on difficult ground in the conversation because I’m not sure that I understand the Chinese economy and system. So, if you can do it without a problem, would you mind explaining the philosophy of your government to me? If that’s too much, then what kind of laws are you talking about?