Leaping Over the Overman

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Refute this. It may be based on some false assumptions about either the Overman or the Last Man according to Nietzsche (who may also have had false assumptions of his own), and if so, I need you to quote Nietzsche to show the assumptions (mine or his) false (or accurate).

Assumption 1: Winning the game of being human implies the rules for winning are built in by a game designer. You can win or lose, but refusing to play is either winning or losing (depending on what defines winning), and making your own rules is the same as refusing to play.

Assumption 2: The Last Man wins the game of being human.

Assumption 3: The Overman is okay with losing that game and making its own game and redefining winning, which may or may not align with what defines the Last Man. But the point is, nobody defines the Overman except the Overman.

Observation 1: If, to be truly Over or Grand, you are the unmade maker who cannot make yourself because you already are everything you can possibly be, in complete fulfillment, all of the Overman thinking triggers responses to the “Who made God?” question, because God is the Unmade Maker (the Last Man is in his image).

Observation 2: If the Overman can be in alignment with the Last Man’s values at points as long as it chooses those values for itself (after revaluation of course)… What if that is how the Last Man was built to win the game in the first place? Wouldn’t that mean the Overman won on accident, that silly guy??

S/he who laughs last… prolly had to go see a man about a horse. Or something.

Over.

Observation 3: Winning the game is fulfilling the love requirement and loving circles around everyone. (Spelling this out for the uninitiated: That game never ends.) Why refuse to play that and beat your chest about power instead? Because love is harder. You have to lose to win. That’s a legit kind of power the fakers aren’t weak enough yet to allow. That’s why you gotta break/reset it (like a broken leg healing weird because it was set wrong) to fix it. Jesus did not come to heal those who consider themselves healthy, but break them. A sword. A fire.

MagsJ… over to you. Iambiguous… you’re up! lol Jk.

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I hurt when I lose, and I hurt when someone loses.

I hurt when I win and someone loses.

I always hurt. I’m tired of hurting.

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Focus on the good stuff. Mothers with newborns wanna die during childbirth and almost forget the pain they are still going through when the baby is in her arms. Something about those eyes :slight_smile:

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Fuck you and your stupid book. People aren’t even supposed to procreate. It violates the exclusivity problem.

The problem that causes hyper empaths to hurt.

Why didn’t someone else get to be the father?

Why didn’t the child get a better mother.

Your fucking book has made you a psychopath.

You’ve used your womanhood to become an idiot.

You’re still deflecting.

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Ec… there are too many fish in the sea for that to even make sense as an excuse. There is no scarcity issue unless you hoard fish like some kind of rooster. Some humans do. It made economic sense when women had less ability to yada yada yada or desire to yada yada yada but then the industrial yada yada yada yada.

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Alright Ichthus…

Let’s get into this.

People get hurt feelings when they’re excluded.

Do you have some fantasy about soul mates?

You don’t see it for what it is.

I could easily have a ‘great’ life with about 2 billion women on the planet.

Easily.

How do I choose one over the other?

Ever seen the movie Sophie’s Choice?

That’s a fraction of how difficult life is for a hyper empath.

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Let’s just say if God (Time) made it obvious to me (in time) that he meant for two particular people, one including myself, to be together, I would obey God. And maybe the other person but I can’t promise anything. For example, I have zero respect for people who can’t freaking get over their addictions (and mad respect for people who can, because they think God is as freaking awesome as I do). Including myself. Pretty sure it’s supposed to be that way.

but, hey. God ain’t done with me yet. Then again, leopards rarely change their spots.

I’m going swimming. Get back on topic or go away. I’m just being a bitch on purpose, don’t mind me.

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Ahh… unless you’re a bitch or jerk when you take it… whatever you take in doesn’t matter.

In India, China and Japan…

People are revered as saints who stopped eating food and drinking water. Biggest addiction on earth.

I hear the withdrawals aren’t pleasant.

Pull your head out of your ass and welcome to the real world.

Even Jesus attempted to die this way. He did it for 40 days… the angels came down and forced him to take the addiction back up.

You can’t even get your own book straight.

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lol. Some folks are addicted to fasting. They’re called anorexics. They need to fast from fasting. And fast.

No secret I’m not one o’ those. But we all have our addictions we need to fast from.

Gonna take a lot to convince me to tolerate an alcoholic just cuz I like food yada yada yada.

I’ve been moving my body more & eating less. But. I’m old, so. There are drawbacks to everything.

If this were heaven we would already be mostly alien androids who … ok … if I think too much about it my imagination short-circuits, so I’ll keep that paused.

I heard it’s possible to drink too much water.

Alcohol is poison. Turning water into wine is fine but alcoholics should still fast from it. Just like convicted pedophiles should not work with children. Sometimes our choices break us permanently and we have to live with the consequences imprinted on us at least until the resurrection. How happy are they who learn to love without ever imprinting crap on themselves. But s/he who is forgiven more, loves more. And never trust a leader without scars.

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Ok.

I know I’m talking to a child right now.

Yogis etc… fast out of compassion and to attain an absorbed state of samadhi.

They are not anorexics.

I don’t know why your toilet paper book means so much to you. But when I’m patching all existence …

I’ll make sure you get to read it forever.

I need feedback.

Everyone’s infinite consent matters.

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I didn’t know somebody is trying to thing about Nietzsche’s Übermensch, but if you didn’t find my stories, it must be the American way.

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That’s only 1/3 the story. What happened to truth & justice? Jk. But you do need all 3 (be, do, end) (truth, way, life) or you have 0.

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Don’t be hostile or post like that.

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It is never over until it is, and even so don’t say so until Proven

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It is never over until it is, and even so don’t say so until Proven

Otherwise…

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Otherwise

The game forfeits by default

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I can put my Übermeter here and see if somebody can reach the boiling point.

Observation 1: Every culture dies covered with buddhism - the religion of the Last man. Christianity is a sort of buddhism. Cultures count: India, Rome, Greece, China, Japan (all primarily white cultures).

Observation 2: Those who inherited those dead cultures were Last men: “eine Art Chinese” - Nietzsche. Except the Japanese, they had some contributions to creativity and love and stars and longings, because they had aristocracy.

Assumption 1: In Europe there were no new gods since thousands of years: a sign that there will be no new nations. Democracy is the elderly phase of a culture, parliamentarism. We are close to die. After that follow empires and buddhisms.

Observation 3: Nietzsche lived at the verge of something similar to republic into democracy. Was that the point of no return for anything unegalitarian? If yes, is that then the beginning of the Last man?

Assumption 2: If democracy is the way of the last man, then aristocracy is the way of the Übermensch, especially if aristocracy is radical.

Assumption 3: If contempt and disgust are the driving forces of divide among different world views. Is there enough of contempt in the world in order to create a new nation out of those who vomit over this world? If yes, then there is enough of weight on both scales to reach the balance.

Other than that the Last man wins the game.

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Does modern man cause the end of times, or is he defined by a belief in it?

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Pharaoh … did it to himself. But. It was done to him. But. It was done for… others.

Understand?

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End of culture. You have in Africa people who live the way it was lived 150.000 years ago. So will the whole world reach a way of living which can’t be surpassed anymore. They will live in the southern parts of Europe where it is warm, just as most of the Chinese are living in the south.

But basically the entire world is already now intellectually dead since they can’t surpass Nietzsche’s ideas. The best they can take is to repeat what he said. To copy, just as Chinese do.