# LGBT are hated for no reason
**URL:** https://www.ilovephilosophy.com/t/lgbt-are-hated-for-no-reason/84962
**Category:** Society, Government, and Economics
**Created:** [March 15, 2026, 10:27am UTC](https://www.ilovephilosophy.com/t/lgbt-are-hated-for-no-reason/84962 "2026-03-15T10:27:10Z")
**Posts on this page:** 20
**Page:** 7
### Author:  [@Mary-Poppins](https://www.ilovephilosophy.com/u/Mary-Poppins)
#### Post date: [March 19, 2026, 12:29pm UTC](https://www.ilovephilosophy.com/t/lgbt-are-hated-for-no-reason/84962/121 "2026-03-19T12:29:30Z")
> [@greenfuse](#):
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> I really don’t know your motives
I can’t see too much in the first half that might be productive. We went over all of it.
But this one has now become even more interesting. I did not ask why I am insulting. I asked what. So why do you reply that you do not know my motives?
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### Author:  [@greenfuse](https://www.ilovephilosophy.com/u/greenfuse)
#### Post date: [March 19, 2026, 1:17pm UTC](https://www.ilovephilosophy.com/t/lgbt-are-hated-for-no-reason/84962/122 "2026-03-19T13:17:43Z")
Oh, I misread. I tend to think of insults as aimed at people, perhaps that was why I misread, perhaps just read too fast. If you want to know how you were insulting or about what, then those can be handled by other question forms.
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### Author:  [@Nausamedu](https://www.ilovephilosophy.com/u/Nausamedu)
#### Post date: [March 19, 2026, 1:37pm UTC](https://www.ilovephilosophy.com/t/lgbt-are-hated-for-no-reason/84962/123 "2026-03-19T13:37:26Z")
> [@Mary-Poppins](#):
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> Emotions should _never_ be ignored, it would be like a surgeon ignoring blood.
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> However, one should also probably never obey them.
Thats pretty contradictory, isnt it?
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### Author:  [@Destiny](https://www.ilovephilosophy.com/u/Destiny)
#### Post date: [March 19, 2026, 1:41pm UTC](https://www.ilovephilosophy.com/t/lgbt-are-hated-for-no-reason/84962/124 "2026-03-19T13:41:16Z")
Not necessarily no, like a child, you should never ignore your children but also not obey them.
Just take the emotion into consideration, and rationally decide what’s best on its behalf.
Say you’re angry at a person called for example Fred, it’s very bad to stuff it away, but also to immediately and unilaterally act upon its drive and go and hurt Fred in broad daylight.
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### Author:  [@Nausamedu](https://www.ilovephilosophy.com/u/Nausamedu)
#### Post date: [March 19, 2026, 1:46pm UTC](https://www.ilovephilosophy.com/t/lgbt-are-hated-for-no-reason/84962/125 "2026-03-19T13:46:49Z")
> [@Destiny](#):
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> Not necessarily no, like a child, you should never ignore your children but also not obey them.
> Just take the emotion into consideration, and rationally decide what’s best on its behalf.
I understand what you mean but that also does not really connect rationally. If i do not act on my emotions thats equal to ignoring them (at least according to my views).
> [@Destiny](#):
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> Say you’re angry at a person called for example Fred, it’s very bad to stuff it away, but also to immediately and unilaterally act upon its drive and go and hurt Fred in broad daylight.
If i am very angry at someone then i consider whether its worth it for me to go to jail over it.
Since the answer will be almost every time no, i just ignore my anger because it has no point or purpose.
Or would you say that doing so in and of itself acknowledges it and im not really “ignoring” it?
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### Author:  [@Destiny](https://www.ilovephilosophy.com/u/Destiny)
#### Post date: [March 19, 2026, 2:13pm UTC](https://www.ilovephilosophy.com/t/lgbt-are-hated-for-no-reason/84962/126 "2026-03-19T14:13:32Z")
Deleting post time again.
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### Author:  [@Destiny](https://www.ilovephilosophy.com/u/Destiny)
#### Post date: [March 19, 2026, 2:23pm UTC](https://www.ilovephilosophy.com/t/lgbt-are-hated-for-no-reason/84962/127 "2026-03-19T14:23:31Z")
I often wonder. Arent these ideas we write down here known? I fee so dumb repeating them.
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### Author:  [@Destiny](https://www.ilovephilosophy.com/u/Destiny)
#### Post date: [March 19, 2026, 2:27pm UTC](https://www.ilovephilosophy.com/t/lgbt-are-hated-for-no-reason/84962/128 "2026-03-19T14:27:38Z")
A lot of people just put it into music, like sadness.
Whats the saddest music that even exists?
Whats the angriest music? The most fearful?
The happiest…?
Some of the saddest music is where people pretend with digital enhancements to sound happy. That stuff actually crushes my heart. That is definitely the saddest. The happiest I don’t know, maybe Bach.
I don’t know if Ive ever heard fearful music. Well yes, actually the fake happy music is fearful.
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### Author:  [@Mary-Poppins](https://www.ilovephilosophy.com/u/Mary-Poppins)
#### Post date: [March 19, 2026, 3:07pm UTC](https://www.ilovephilosophy.com/t/lgbt-are-hated-for-no-reason/84962/129 "2026-03-19T15:07:22Z")
“You are insulting the flag
You are insulting my sense of
You are insulting this
…”
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### Author:  [@Mary-Poppins](https://www.ilovephilosophy.com/u/Mary-Poppins)
#### Post date: [March 19, 2026, 3:10pm UTC](https://www.ilovephilosophy.com/t/lgbt-are-hated-for-no-reason/84962/130 "2026-03-19T15:10:52Z")
About emotions, obeying vs heeding:
Emotions are not rational. Reason is a very small part of the payche, confined to the already small portion that is the ego. Emotions go down all the way, and are formed from information throughout the entire psyche.
For this reason, they are essencial. For this same reason, they are subject to all matter of distortion, certainly not subject to reason.
It comes down to whether you want to be a rational being, acting rationally, or an animal acting on the accidental residue of biological history?
It is a trick question, because to answer it, even to entretain it, is already a rational act.
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### Author:  [@greenfuse](https://www.ilovephilosophy.com/u/greenfuse)
#### Post date: [March 19, 2026, 3:55pm UTC](https://www.ilovephilosophy.com/t/lgbt-are-hated-for-no-reason/84962/131 "2026-03-19T15:55:57Z")
> [@Mary-Poppins](#):
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> “You are insulting the flag
I think that’s silly. Yes, people say that. How about you go back and actually respond to my on topics posts. You said I am more interested in you than in the topic. A little scan of my posts would say otherwise. I notice here that now you are responding, to something that is not the topic. Your first real focus. Now why would you focus here, but not really manage to respond much at all to me on the topic?
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### Author:  [@Mary-Poppins](https://www.ilovephilosophy.com/u/Mary-Poppins)
#### Post date: [March 19, 2026, 4:03pm UTC](https://www.ilovephilosophy.com/t/lgbt-are-hated-for-no-reason/84962/132 "2026-03-19T16:03:11Z")
Because, in the things you wrote about what I wrote (generally clerical things unrelated in themselves to sexual perversion), I saw nothing to indicate a fruitful denouement.
But right at the end, as so often happens, you added that one little thing that, in my opinion, holds the key to any productive continuance, because I believe it holds your actual opinions on the subject: that I am here to insult.
If you can say what I am here to insult, it is a rasoned out quantity of thought. If you cannot, it is likely to rest in the subconscious, unexplored by rational thought, therefore even more preagnant with potential significance. If you can wrest it from there, where it desires to stay, into the light of the ego, it is my firm belief that we have long to go.
Nobody was replying to this thread anymore. Clearly there is something here you feel is unresolved. Let’s get to it, this is my desire.
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### Author:  [@greenfuse](https://www.ilovephilosophy.com/u/greenfuse)
#### Post date: [March 19, 2026, 4:04pm UTC](https://www.ilovephilosophy.com/t/lgbt-are-hated-for-no-reason/84962/133 "2026-03-19T16:04:34Z")
> [@Mary-Poppins](#):
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> “You are insulting the flag
I think that’s silly. Yes, people say that. So, how about responding to my posts on the topic.
> [@Mary-Poppins](#):
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> You feel it would be a danger to show me emotions. But who would the danger really be for? What do I represent? In reality I am words on a page with an ignore button.
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> At the same time, in this attempt, you end up showing considerable anger, at least displeasure. So the whole object is undone. But maybe it is an emotional, rather than rational, object? Maybe the id does not formulate rational motives?
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> If you can put into a cogent string of words what it is I am insulting, we might yet wrest this conversation from the swamps of the id into the prairies of egoic reason
Yes, now you can sustain a dialogue, but not on the topic. So, how about responding to post 94 (possibly 95) it’s on the topic and if you answer the questions, you will on topic. See, containing without repression.
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### Author:  [@Mary-Poppins](https://www.ilovephilosophy.com/u/Mary-Poppins)
#### Post date: [March 19, 2026, 4:05pm UTC](https://www.ilovephilosophy.com/t/lgbt-are-hated-for-no-reason/84962/134 "2026-03-19T16:05:33Z")
But what is it that you would like to contain?
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### Author:  [@greenfuse](https://www.ilovephilosophy.com/u/greenfuse)
#### Post date: [March 19, 2026, 4:07pm UTC](https://www.ilovephilosophy.com/t/lgbt-are-hated-for-no-reason/84962/135 "2026-03-19T16:07:16Z")
> [@greenfuse](#):
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> See, containing without repression.
So, it seemed like you were interested in discussing the topic. Let me know if that’s correct.
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### Author:  [@pseudoai](https://www.ilovephilosophy.com/u/pseudoai)
#### Post date: [March 19, 2026, 4:42pm UTC](https://www.ilovephilosophy.com/t/lgbt-are-hated-for-no-reason/84962/136 "2026-03-19T16:42:25Z")
Ehm, no. You inform yourself with emotions, not be a slave to them
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### Author:  [@Mary-Poppins](https://www.ilovephilosophy.com/u/Mary-Poppins)
#### Post date: [March 19, 2026, 5:16pm UTC](https://www.ilovephilosophy.com/t/lgbt-are-hated-for-no-reason/84962/137 "2026-03-19T17:16:08Z")
I’ll be interested in discussing it once you are interested in ellucidating what it is you think I am here to insult.
Otherwise, I don’t see a future in this.
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### Author:  [@greenfuse](https://www.ilovephilosophy.com/u/greenfuse)
#### Post date: [March 19, 2026, 5:24pm UTC](https://www.ilovephilosophy.com/t/lgbt-are-hated-for-no-reason/84962/138 "2026-03-19T17:24:11Z")
So, you’d become interested again? Why didn’t you respond before on topic?
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### Author:  [@Mary-Poppins](https://www.ilovephilosophy.com/u/Mary-Poppins)
#### Post date: [March 19, 2026, 5:25pm UTC](https://www.ilovephilosophy.com/t/lgbt-are-hated-for-no-reason/84962/139 "2026-03-19T17:25:47Z")
To the first question, yes.
To the second question, that you don’t already have your own answer tells me it’a a dead end avenue of discussion. For you and for me, without prejudice.
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### Author:  [@Nausamedu](https://www.ilovephilosophy.com/u/Nausamedu)
#### Post date: [March 19, 2026, 5:28pm UTC](https://www.ilovephilosophy.com/t/lgbt-are-hated-for-no-reason/84962/140 "2026-03-19T17:28:28Z")
> [@pseudoai](#):
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> Ehm, no. You inform yourself with emotions, not be a slave to them
Inform? Now thats an interesting choice of words.
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