Does not everything have to be truth in some way or the other?
If a ‘lie’ is spoken, it is only a lie from our perspectives. However, in reality, there is no such thing as a lie.
The quote isn’t mine, but I understand the implications (I think).
First, yes, it is only from one’s perspective that one can speak.
Everything (that you conceive) can be considered ‘truth’ in one sense, that ‘conception’ is your truth. (If everything has “to be truth in some way or the other”, it also has to be false “in some way or the other”; you can’t have one without the other)
I’m not speaking of ‘lies’ in the sense of deliberately saying something that you think is ‘false’ (that too can be dabated as to its real falsity…) but saying that the word is not the thing, and at the deeper levels of understanding, our medieval language is inadequate to convey any clear concepts because there are no ‘clear’ concepts.
I have experienced the truth of the quote, but never really analized it. Perhaps that, in itself, illustrated the ‘third handedness’ of words.
[i]“Our true nature is beyond thought, and can only be discerned when one abides in the present and serenely reflects the wonder of existence.”
“The function of the mind is as a perceiver, but our thoughts find their origin in the memories of the mind’s perception.”[/i]
And from ‘thoughts’, speech… Thrice removed from the ‘reality’ of our perceptions.
Realize, please, that I am just now fleshing this out intellectually. I already experience the ‘truth’ of the quote; now I have to translate (less than adequately, I think) it into words. The attempt illustrates the truth of the quote, poignantly! When I speak, I can only hope that you can somehow translate this pile of words into something intelligible to you. You have to find meaning in the meaningless. You have to find your ‘truth’ amidst the ‘false’ (meaningless).
Am I making any sense at all? Sometimes one intuitively perceives ‘truth’, and only (apparently) later does one stumble on verification and evidentiary data…
Let me put on my ‘thinking cap’ and, perhaps, find a more lucid train of thought… (and then to put it into words! <rolls eyes & sighs>)
Thanx for giving me some ‘food for thought’.
“In Silentium, Verum!” - Book of Fudd
(In Silence, Truth!)
On another (perhaps more pragmatic) level, from another perspective, a good thing to remember might be; “All statements are true in some sense, false in some sense, meaningless in some sense, true and false in some sense, true and meaningless in some sense, false and meaningless in some sense, and true and false and meaningless in some sense.” -Robert Anton Wilson
I suppose THIS is why people are incapable of philosophizing. And it took me about five full tries to figure out how to spell that word.
Answers are simply never-ending for a simple thought can turn so broad. I do understand what you are saying, Nameless…and I also just forgot half of it.
However, what I have understood is that - pertaining to the quote - everything in this world has truth and a lie to it. Nothing is completely factual or vice versa.
Hence, what I have gained from all this is Everything is Nothing.
I do not even know how else to arrange it in my head right now. I feel overly crowded. Heh. :-&
The puppet is too damn creepy to be held out in public like that.