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Hey now, don’t go getting me a punch on the face. I can only imagine the pain would be comparable to a punch in the face. Oh me, I just got shivers up my spine.

But, really, will one of the mods please have a chat with this clown? No fucking idea what he/she has been ranting about, but it has gone beyond the realm of being comical.

Sonnen, if you understand written words, read carefully: I don’t know who you think I am. Shit, I don’t know who you think you are. But I can tell you either have some serious comprehension problems or your apparent paranoia has reached clinical stages.

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There could be more fundamental branches of life. Viruses could be in 1 metabranch of life, plants in 2 and animals in 3.

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I think the biological components of it might be alive, but not the whole of it.

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Isn’t that redundant?

I’m willing to accept a very broad definition of life but even if we accept a more narrow one, what does that statement mean? That a person with a prosthetic is alive but the prosthetic isn’t? So what?

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Hey, I have one for you Lucis…

I have always touted my CRH as a kernel for a truly living lifeform. Do you think in practice it fits your definition of a megaform?

It adapts, it grows, it mends, it learns, it reproduces, it is very self-aware, and it functions as a unit.

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The whole of Meart isn’t trying to survive, only parts of it are (the organic). If the whole of Meart’s function was to maintain it’s existence rather than produce crappy art,
I’d be obliged to agree.

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Not really, my Megaforms would be an organic, symbiotic cooperation between various large species (large as in, not microscopic). Your’s is a partially synthetic, symbiotic cooperation between members of one large species (humans).

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So how about if we incorporate a few dogs, cats, fish… maybe a gerbil or two?

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Who is defining the telos of MeART? Us or it? How does that apply to what you’ve written?

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If they have been sufficiently domesticated, then yes, there would be a kind of partnership between multiple large (macroscopic) lifeforms. Society is a kind of Megaform (more artificial than the one I was dreaming about though).

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It follows from my definition of life. The whole of MeArt serves art. A few constituents of it serve life.

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Well it technically serves whatever it is told to serve. What if MEART were given the one and only directive to live?

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Then MeArt would be alive.

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So is my hair something distinct from my hand when it comes to the conception of life?

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No, your hair is alive, both in the wholistic sense (man struggles to survive, hair is a part of man) and the in of itself sense (it grows).

My conception of the world is bold and grand. It is lovely, I am not ashamed to say, it is lovely (in addition to being internally and externally consistent).

I love my philosophy. You are permitted to love it as well, if you so desire.

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Well, by that logic, a cyborg with human hair would be “alive” so long as he committed himself primarily to life.

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Indeed it would

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So, for example, an human corpse with a hard drive for a brain [no nervous system or working organs] would be “alive” so long as it were programmed to live as a human normally would?

That doesn’t seem right to me, though I can’t put my finger on exactly why. Interesting subject.

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Is silk alive?

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Zombies may be alive.

Silk isn’t alive.