Living By Philosophy

Are you more Socratic, or Academic?

  • Academic
  • Socratic
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We have two competing images of the philosopher, although that is not to say that there can be no others - the socratic and the academic. I choose these labels for pragmatic reasons, not absolute definitions. Here is my explanation of the two:

(1) On the one hand, we have the image of the philosopher who lives his philosophy, who is personally invested in his ethics, his metaphysics, his ontology, and lives his life according to that philosophy. I label this type “socratic” because, for me, it goes along with the image of socrates engaging in philosophical discourse with all classes of people. “The unexamined life is not worth living”. Socrates wanted us to examine our lives and our assumptions philosophically, to go through a process that made the most common man a philosopher, and gave him the intellectual stability to live his life according to a fully-formed, philosophical view of the world.

(2) And on the other hand, we have the more modern image of the academic philosopher, who is not personally invested in his philosophy, although he may be professionally invested in it. His personal life and his philosophical life are separate. His philosophy is not built to help guide his life, its goal is not to define the good life. His philosophy mainly has the purpose of academic battle and achievement.

These two images are not meant to be perfect. I do not mean to say that every philosopher is literally and exclusively one or the other. I do not mean to say that either of these images tells the whole story. But I do think they are true enough, and that asking ourselves where we stand in the spectrum between the two can be useful.

I want to ask the members of this forum: What do you think about these two images of the philosopher? Do you think we have lost something by removing philosophy from our personal lives? Do you have a personal philosophy that actually guides your choices in life?

This is meant to be an open discussion, please make any comments about this that might occur to you. The only thing that I ask is that you do not spend time questioning whether the distinction is completely true, or meaningful. I recognize the limitations and simplifications inherent in these images. This is intended merely as a jumping off point for constructive discussion.

Interesting topic.

I personally tend more to the Socratic side, as I participate in philosophy mainly as a self-study, as self-improvement, because I love wisdom.
My interest in philosophy started because I felt the urge for self-therapy, and I think that up till now philosophy still plays that role in my life.
I definately try to live life by some philosophical guidelines, but right now I have not yet found a complete systematic philosophy that can answer all the questions for me.

Joewi,
Thanks for the reply. I’d be interested in hearing specifics about how your philosophy (which you say is in process) has shaped your life. If this is something that you are able to explain, I think it would be elucidatory to the subject.

Both my philosophy and lifestyle are the same. Open mindedness and acceptance. Those never change in me. I’m not sure if that is philosophy…

Hmmm… Socratic by that definition. Perhaps anther direction this cause can move is that of intellect vs. wisdom.

I have heard the it is this disctinction which may help account for the growth of a small Jewish sect growing to some large degree since 50AD. It is them who seem to own self help along with psychiatric study.

A very educated person claimed Kant saw this issue and attempted to lift the rocks. He turned out not strong enough. But that doesn’t mean the rocks don’t exist.

I voted Socratic. I’m in this thing for life. Life is questioning. I question because I am. or rather, I am because I question. :sunglasses:

Neither, but if I had to choose one, it would be Socratic.

My Socratic side runs along about 2 years behind my Academic side.

Socratic, but it’s not all encompassing…

My personal morals and ethics are for me alone, but others have to respect that, or suffer the consequences of not doing so…

I started out socratic, I was confused as to what I wanted to do with my life. I wanted concrete answers and looked for them in philosophy. Maybe I didn’t look hard enough or wasn’t smart enough, but I can’t say I found what I was looking for, certainly not a full-formed view of the world.

Now I rely more on experience and actually living to be my guide. The way I see it is that doing philosophy will teach you something about philosophy and living will teach you something about how to live.

Because I’m familiar with philosophy, I still enjoy reading books or forums, much like some stupid sitcom you keep watching, just because. So academic I guess.

socratic

If it’s not worth acting on… it’s just empty prattle.

socratic is great… pass the hemlock

-Imp