What L.A. is considering is NOT “crazy.” What IS crazy is why intelligent people fail to learn from history. Gov’ts have a terrible history of doing or condoning nasty shit to their own people (not to mention the peoples of other countries), and we’re not talking ancient history. Looking at the US alone, we can discuss dozens of “iffy” and blatantly obvious examples.
Adlerian, as always, has it backwards. What makes people NOT want to accept a “conspiracy” theory is their need to believe in a “safe” and “just” world, where the people in charge will take care of them. These types of people do not have the intestinal fortitude to consider the scary alternative, despite the EVIDENCE time and again presented in front of them. Hitler said it best when he talked about “bigger is better” re. lies.
Ask yourself why the US gov’t stymied all attempts to get to the bottom of 9/11 (imp’s pathetic refrain of “they didn’t,” is far less compelling than the words of THE INVESTIGATORS THEMESELVES!); why did they confiscate all video recordings of what happened around the pentagon just before the attack; why did the landlord (owner?) of the 7th WTC bldg. give testimony that confirmed what anyone with a brain and a pair of testicles or ovaries could recognize when seeing the “collapse” (i.e., controlled implosion) of that bldg, which contradicts official events; what is on the bottom of the plane that hit the 2nd WTC bldg (looks like a missile–definitely not an engine nor shadow; why is there so much evidence that 9/11 did not go down like they claim; why do proponents of the official story have nothing but ad hominems against those who oppose this story, or attack one of two of the WEAKEST alternative explanations, but have NOTHING to counter the 90% of the STRONG, apparently irrefutable arguments; why does the official story of the Oklahoma City bombings contradict most of the MEDIA and EYEWITNESS accounts of what went down; why won’t the gov’t reveal the videotape evidence that shows the official version of that bombing is garbage; etc. etc…This is a quick list off the top of my head.
In psychology, we never have FACTS. We have evidence and opinions and hypotheses and so on, but never FACTS. We never PROVE anything. However, if we find lots of converging support for ABC and lots of contradictory evidence against XYZ, we have confidence to make certain inferences. We’re not always “correct” but at least we improve our understanding (or try). Rational, disinterested, flexible people who look at all the current evidence–AND EVIDENCE THAT THE SAME GOV’T HAS OFTEN ENGAGED IN SUCH DIRTY TRICKS–MUST conclude that something is very fishy in the preceding examples, not to mention so many more. People who cannot do so are ignorant, scared, blind patriots, apathetic, and/or in such denial b/c to consider the alternative explanations is far too psychologically daunting and scary for them.
The one thing I will say for those who engage in cover-ups is that they are experts at psychological warfare. They quickly act to discredit those who produce the contrary evidence so that people have a good reason not to want to believe them (e.g., “I don’t want to look like a fool, just like them”). A recent example of this was in Canada, where Dr. Nancy Olivieri refused to be shut up and went public with her findings that a certain medicine seemed to have very adverse effects on kids. The massive smear campaign waged against her would have broken men such as imp or adlerian, but she stood strong. Eventually HARD COLD EVIDENCE PROVED that the smear campaign was all lies and she was able to return to her job (the hospital/university had originally got rid of her at the drug company’s request, and the gov’t did nothing).
The same thing happened to 2 or 3 scientists who refused to shut up when an evil American company tried to poison our cows and milk supply with some hormone shit that even the US gov’t wouldn’t allow (I know, harsh language, but look at the facts). Cell phones are the next big thing. Smoking was the old big thing. And so on…
The point is, why would anyone so stupidly believe that leaders of a gov’t would be any different from leaders of a company or hospital or whatever, especially when these leaders have proven time and again they have no ethics or morals…Contragate anyone? (Reagan should have been found guilty of treason) Noriega-gate anyone? (We all remember Bush Sr.'s claim never to have met the man, right? Those pix of CIA leader Bush being all chummy with him told a different story)…again, one can quickly and easily raise dozens of examples that have been PROVEN to show what gov’ts have done and are willing to do. Similarly, only an idiot would fail to realize that, in the West, most of these leaders are cut from the same cloth as the biz leaders, and their past/current/future prosperity is usually inextricably tied together.
So, not to say that LA’s hunches are necessarily correct, but I’d much rather be suspicious of my gov’t than blindly believe their lies that are very insulting to anyone with a 3-digit IQ. The sad thing is, gov’ts know they don’t even have to try THAT hard b/c they’ve been allowed to get away with so much silly shit with the craziest of explanations before (magic bullet anyone?). All they need to do is convince the masses that they shouldn’t care or shouldn’t think too hard; then the minority who have the brains and bravery to challenge these insultingly ridiculous explanations have to deal with the (sorry to say) rather unintelligent and/or unmotivated masses. Throw in a bit of confusion, constantly changing stories, certain spins in the media, smear campaigns, repeated lies, and most important EMOTIONS, and you can get away with literally murder.
Sorry to ramble so much, but I am disgusted when I see people dismiss any contrary claims out of hand just b/c most people are too stupid or psychologically weak to consider the possible ugly truth, ESPECIALLY WHEN YOU HAVE SO MUCH EVIDENCE TO SHOW THAT YOU SHOULD WORRY!!!
Of course, some people would like to look at my rant and say “see, he’s just another rambling conspiracy nut!” No, I just get emotionally charged by others’ ignorance and psychological weakness/simplicity.
For anyone who wants to mock me, I have a serious, legitimate challenge. I’ll put up any amount of money. We’ll make arrangements for all this. Then, I’ll give you (let’s take a random number…) TEN recent contradictions to official stories. If you can COMPLETELY discredit even HALF of those challenges with CREDIBLE and LOGICAL evidence and/or explanations (i.e., something like “This is what the Warren Commission found” doesn’t cut it), you get that money. Of course, if you fail, I get that amount from you. I’m dead serious about this. Much of my life I’ve been interested in reading up on these things and checking out evidence for both sides; yes, there ARE many “conspiracy nuts” out there, and some are TRULY loopy. But people thought those who claimed tobacco giants knew they were killing us and were targeting children were nuts–hey, “respectable” scientists on the tobacco companies’ side argued against this…; people who warned about climate change decades ago were called nuts (now EVEN BUSH the weasel is ackowledging this FACT, even though he had despicable scientists claiming otherwise (and evil staff to distort the reports…). Anyway, the challenges I’ll present have been scrutinized by many REAL respectable people and I’ve yet to see anyone be able to shoot them down with good explanations or evidence. If you think YOU can, put up the money. It might be worth your time…
If not, then you have to ask why you’re so willing to believe the “official story” and sneer at posts such as LAs. Ignorance is blistering…
Oh, and a warning here. Adlerian is going to drool as he sees an opporunity to try to jump all over my post. He also thinks he has the support of at least two others who have written against LA’s original message, so he’ll have lots of “courage” to do so. I know at least ONE of you has seen what kind of tenaciously closed-minded ignorant imbecile he is (in the terror thread (and, like a typical coward, he hoisted his hefty haunches out of that thread and fled into here without addressing the things he knew he had no ability to address 
)), so please make sure that your posts are kept entirely separate from his, even though he’s going to try to lump them together. Such tactics can confuse the message (which he wants, since deep down he knows his message is shit, just like his reasoning…)
and she simply saw what she saw. She posits an explanation for this that requires only the acceptance of the belief that governments can and often do perfom rather rotten acts on their own citizenry. Being a realist would mean one must accept the possibility of such a thing.
I’ll understand if nobody bothers reading the whole thing…