Losing Our Spines to Save Our Necks) article by sam harris

Muslim philosophy & spirituality is outdated and dangerous.

It will be assimilated into the global powers of Euro-America (The Western World), Russia, or Indian, because it has no atomic weapons to defend itself (yet). If Islam gets nuclear weapons, then there will be a nuclear war. Their fanaticism will likely get worse and not better, because like your post observes, the Islamic religion has no accountability for extremists. Unless I am unaware of it, there are no proper solutions on how to annihilate the relic of Islam that can be agreed upon at present. There is also one rampant misconception–the US actually doesn’t want to destroy the Islam religion unless it has to, it wants to destroy Islamic extremism. The epitomizing problem is that there is no separation between fundamentalism and extremism until Muslims choose to take responsibility for terrorist actions…

In fact, I hope that somebody in the West will confront Islam about this directly and sooner rather than later, or there will be a cataclysm. The West should challenge the ideals of Islam, because it could be a win-win situation if done correctly. The current problem is that Western ideals are built upon hypocrisy and the bureaucracy/institution would be destroyed on Moral grounds if these hypocrisies are not addressed beforehand. So, basically, America has to admit it is the evil entity before it has the ideal power to defeat Islam through ideas themselves. If America would just admit that we’re an expansive empire, that we will kill threats without hesitation, and that we seek to stabilize world powers in order to prevent nuclear warfare, then America could very well regain its global Moral power. I don’t know how likely this is though… The Age of Reason is not here just yet and I can’t yet tell how soon it will arrive…

The War of Ideas rages in the world and the stakes are getting higher as we speak…

For those interested Fitna can be seen here, convieniently translated into English, video.google.com/videoplay?docid … 8312745410 .

Whatever one might have against Islam, who else is taking the fight to the Infidel?

re. the video, it is quite obviously very offensive as was Submission ( video.google.com/videoplay?docid … 3888697427 ) which was written by a poitical ally of Wilders, Hirsi Ali. It would be laughable to call these videos anything but gross propaganda; it is quite amazing that Submission was aired on Dutch TV, and it can hardly be a surprise that “Dutch television refused to air Fitna…”

There are certainly a lot of Muslims in the Netherlands, there is no doubt about that; wherever you see a street cleaner or a “barista” or a rubbish collecter you will see a Muslim.

The video quotes The Women (Surah 4) Verse 56 at 2:55; this jumped out at me as I just read it yesterday (I’m presently reading the Qur’an). And it was also coincidentally back on the same day that I first registered on ILP that I first read this block of text (4:47-57). The block is addressed to the People of the Book; back when I joined ILP the translation of The Women I read contained the lines “we change faces” (4:47); which I had wondered about the meaning of; the translation I’m reading now has “wipe out [your sense of] direction”, with a note reading “obliterate faces.” This is obviously of little interest to anyone but myself, but it does remind me of how little difference there is between Islam and the West; “I am but mad north-north-west: when the wind is southerly I know a hawk from a handsaw;” or “From today? Revaluation of all values!”