# Love is Tricky

**URL:** https://www.ilovephilosophy.com/t/love-is-tricky/83679
**Category:** Psychology and Mind
**Created:** [August 29, 2025, 1:14am UTC](https://www.ilovephilosophy.com/t/love-is-tricky/83679 "2025-08-29T01:14:42Z")
**Posts on this page:** 20
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### Author: ![Ichthus77](https://www.ilovephilosophy.com/user_avatar/www.ilovephilosophy.com/ichthus77/32/446_2.png) [@Ichthus77](https://www.ilovephilosophy.com/u/Ichthus77)
#### Post date: [August 30, 2025, 6:35pm UTC](https://www.ilovephilosophy.com/t/love-is-tricky/83679/61 "2025-08-30T18:35:58Z")

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> [@anon51310602](#):
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> If I paid you would you keep talking?

…oops. I already forgot I said that.

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### Author: ![anon51310602](https://www.ilovephilosophy.com/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/a/b5ac83/32.png) [@anon51310602](https://www.ilovephilosophy.com/u/anon51310602)
#### Post date: [August 30, 2025, 6:35pm UTC](https://www.ilovephilosophy.com/t/love-is-tricky/83679/62 "2025-08-30T18:35:59Z")

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> [@Ichthus77](#):
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> People paid to provide excellent customer service at whatever establishment you are patronizing?

Employees are soldiers upon the economic battlefield fighting for resources and promotions. They don’t care about you or I. They say “have a nice day” or “how are you” on the clock, while getting paid. That same person wouldn’t even cough in your direction in the store parking lot, off the clock.

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### Author: ![anon51310602](https://www.ilovephilosophy.com/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/a/b5ac83/32.png) [@anon51310602](https://www.ilovephilosophy.com/u/anon51310602)
#### Post date: [August 30, 2025, 6:37pm UTC](https://www.ilovephilosophy.com/t/love-is-tricky/83679/63 "2025-08-30T18:37:14Z")

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> [@Ichthus77](#):
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> Aren’t you an employee? Don’t you do it for more than the money? You’re talking about things that are not mutually exclusive.

No, I refuse to work. Unemployed for years. I have no wife, no family, no kids. Why work? To buy XBox games? To feed the irresponsible people who impregnated women so I couldn’t?

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### Author: ![Ichthus77](https://www.ilovephilosophy.com/user_avatar/www.ilovephilosophy.com/ichthus77/32/446_2.png) [@Ichthus77](https://www.ilovephilosophy.com/u/Ichthus77)
#### Post date: [August 30, 2025, 6:37pm UTC](https://www.ilovephilosophy.com/t/love-is-tricky/83679/64 "2025-08-30T18:37:51Z")

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> [@anon51310602](#):
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> 15 years

What happened 15 years ago?

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### Author: ![anon51310602](https://www.ilovephilosophy.com/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/a/b5ac83/32.png) [@anon51310602](https://www.ilovephilosophy.com/u/anon51310602)
#### Post date: [August 30, 2025, 6:38pm UTC](https://www.ilovephilosophy.com/t/love-is-tricky/83679/65 "2025-08-30T18:38:46Z")

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The general realization that my participation was not appreciated.

And that this society is not worth supporting.

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### Author: ![Ichthus77](https://www.ilovephilosophy.com/user_avatar/www.ilovephilosophy.com/ichthus77/32/446_2.png) [@Ichthus77](https://www.ilovephilosophy.com/u/Ichthus77)
#### Post date: [August 30, 2025, 6:42pm UTC](https://www.ilovephilosophy.com/t/love-is-tricky/83679/66 "2025-08-30T18:42:38Z")

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If you want to be truly countercultural, show us how it’s done. Love people the way you want to be loved when you have a paycheck and get back to me.

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### Author: ![anon51310602](https://www.ilovephilosophy.com/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/a/b5ac83/32.png) [@anon51310602](https://www.ilovephilosophy.com/u/anon51310602)
#### Post date: [August 30, 2025, 6:48pm UTC](https://www.ilovephilosophy.com/t/love-is-tricky/83679/67 "2025-08-30T18:48:45Z")

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And this feeds into commercialized society, the very society eliminating family and love and replacing it with employees and services.

No more family, interacting out of love. Just employees, working for payment.

Do you not see that?

Loveless robot slaves. _But that paint pretty._

Work hard, make good money, charge everybody for everything and do it for the corporation and money, not for family and love.

You’re part of the problem.

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### Author: ![anon51310602](https://www.ilovephilosophy.com/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/a/b5ac83/32.png) [@anon51310602](https://www.ilovephilosophy.com/u/anon51310602)
#### Post date: [August 30, 2025, 6:50pm UTC](https://www.ilovephilosophy.com/t/love-is-tricky/83679/68 "2025-08-30T18:50:32Z")

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> [@Ichthus77](#):
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> Love people the way you want to be loved

I did, I do. They can’t appreciate nor reciprocate it.

Loveless, robot slaves.

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### Author: ![anon51310602](https://www.ilovephilosophy.com/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/a/b5ac83/32.png) [@anon51310602](https://www.ilovephilosophy.com/u/anon51310602)
#### Post date: [August 30, 2025, 6:58pm UTC](https://www.ilovephilosophy.com/t/love-is-tricky/83679/69 "2025-08-30T18:58:14Z")

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> [@Ichthus77](#):
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> when you have a paycheck and get back to me.

I don’t need a check. Money in the bank.

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### Author: ![anon51310602](https://www.ilovephilosophy.com/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/a/b5ac83/32.png) [@anon51310602](https://www.ilovephilosophy.com/u/anon51310602)
#### Post date: [August 30, 2025, 7:00pm UTC](https://www.ilovephilosophy.com/t/love-is-tricky/83679/70 "2025-08-30T19:00:19Z")

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> [@anon51310602](#):
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> But to respond to your other point, yes, imposing upon others is not healthy. However at the same time denying people partners and affection is also an issue. That’s arguably a larger problem than imposition. Isolation is deadly.

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> I am alone. And I’m literally dying because of it.

Long-term isolation is indeed associated with a significantly increased risk of **premature death** and serious health problems.

## Mortality Risk

People experiencing prolonged social isolation have a 29–32% higher risk of dying early compared to those who are not isolated. Some studies even suggest the risk is as severe as smoking 15 cigarettes a day or being obese. This elevated risk applies across all age groups, races, and initial health conditions.

[https://www.perplexity.ai/search/is-long-term-isolation-deadly-vmtye539Q\_yDs3G4P7ZuTg](https://www.perplexity.ai/search/is-long-term-isolation-deadly-vmtye539Q_yDs3G4P7ZuTg)

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### Author: ![HungryJoe](https://www.ilovephilosophy.com/user_avatar/www.ilovephilosophy.com/hungryjoe/32/27157_2.png) [@HungryJoe](https://www.ilovephilosophy.com/u/HungryJoe)
#### Post date: [August 30, 2025, 7:08pm UTC](https://www.ilovephilosophy.com/t/love-is-tricky/83679/71 "2025-08-30T19:08:03Z")

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Not at the first hint of disappointment. Persistent, true, painful love is possible.

That’s why it’s a “labor of love”

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### Author: ![anon51310602](https://www.ilovephilosophy.com/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/a/b5ac83/32.png) [@anon51310602](https://www.ilovephilosophy.com/u/anon51310602)
#### Post date: [August 30, 2025, 7:22pm UTC](https://www.ilovephilosophy.com/t/love-is-tricky/83679/72 "2025-08-30T19:22:55Z")

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You’re 17, right? Grow. Then talk.

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### Author: ![HungryJoe](https://www.ilovephilosophy.com/user_avatar/www.ilovephilosophy.com/hungryjoe/32/27157_2.png) [@HungryJoe](https://www.ilovephilosophy.com/u/HungryJoe)
#### Post date: [August 30, 2025, 7:24pm UTC](https://www.ilovephilosophy.com/t/love-is-tricky/83679/73 "2025-08-30T19:24:07Z")

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Maybe… But I look at my dad and he’s been happily married for decades despite (no offense Mom) not having a supermodel wife.

Your probably right though

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### Author: ![Ichthus77](https://www.ilovephilosophy.com/user_avatar/www.ilovephilosophy.com/ichthus77/32/446_2.png) [@Ichthus77](https://www.ilovephilosophy.com/u/Ichthus77)
#### Post date: [August 30, 2025, 7:24pm UTC](https://www.ilovephilosophy.com/t/love-is-tricky/83679/74 "2025-08-30T19:24:28Z")

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First, give it all away. Then start over.

You obviously need to reset.

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### Author: ![anon51310602](https://www.ilovephilosophy.com/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/a/b5ac83/32.png) [@anon51310602](https://www.ilovephilosophy.com/u/anon51310602)
#### Post date: [August 30, 2025, 7:24pm UTC](https://www.ilovephilosophy.com/t/love-is-tricky/83679/75 "2025-08-30T19:24:52Z")

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What does that even mean?

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### Author: ![Ichthus77](https://www.ilovephilosophy.com/user_avatar/www.ilovephilosophy.com/ichthus77/32/446_2.png) [@Ichthus77](https://www.ilovephilosophy.com/u/Ichthus77)
#### Post date: [August 30, 2025, 7:27pm UTC](https://www.ilovephilosophy.com/t/love-is-tricky/83679/76 "2025-08-30T19:27:24Z")

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You’re either retired, a trust fund baby, or the government throws money at you, am I right? Time to grow up.

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### Author: ![anon51310602](https://www.ilovephilosophy.com/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/a/b5ac83/32.png) [@anon51310602](https://www.ilovephilosophy.com/u/anon51310602)
#### Post date: [August 30, 2025, 7:28pm UTC](https://www.ilovephilosophy.com/t/love-is-tricky/83679/77 "2025-08-30T19:28:00Z")

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> [@Ichthus77](#):
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> when you have a paycheck and get back to me

I have deciphered Leonardo’s primary work. I am sharing the discovery for $ **Free**.99.

The details align in such a way it’s unmistakable. No one else has revealed these details.

Dan Brown scribbled some bullshit, some corporation scattered it and made millions upon millions of dollars. Dan Brown also picked up a few mistresses.

**If I demanded everyone pay $29.99 for my material would all the ladies love me then?**

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### Author: ![anon51310602](https://www.ilovephilosophy.com/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/a/b5ac83/32.png) [@anon51310602](https://www.ilovephilosophy.com/u/anon51310602)
#### Post date: [August 30, 2025, 7:29pm UTC](https://www.ilovephilosophy.com/t/love-is-tricky/83679/78 "2025-08-30T19:29:32Z")

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> [@Ichthus77](#):
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> You’re either retired, a trust fund baby, or the government throws money at you, am I right? Time to grow up.

Retired. Anyone can retire at any age with enough money.

Plus, I have no kids to spend on.

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### Author: ![Ichthus77](https://www.ilovephilosophy.com/user_avatar/www.ilovephilosophy.com/ichthus77/32/446_2.png) [@Ichthus77](https://www.ilovephilosophy.com/u/Ichthus77)
#### Post date: [August 30, 2025, 7:29pm UTC](https://www.ilovephilosophy.com/t/love-is-tricky/83679/79 "2025-08-30T19:29:33Z")

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> [@Ichthus77](#):
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> What happened 15 years ago?

Retired 15 years ago, or divorced, or what? Obviously, they didn’t take _everything_. Maybe they should have? Might have been better for you.

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### Author: ![Ichthus77](https://www.ilovephilosophy.com/user_avatar/www.ilovephilosophy.com/ichthus77/32/446_2.png) [@Ichthus77](https://www.ilovephilosophy.com/u/Ichthus77)
#### Post date: [August 30, 2025, 7:31pm UTC](https://www.ilovephilosophy.com/t/love-is-tricky/83679/80 "2025-08-30T19:31:56Z")

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What happened 15 years ago that made you start obsessing over bullshit like what Dan Brown did and want to do it in your own way?

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