Magnus me morality of abortions - others dont post!

Thats not true but even if it were, an it is definitely possible, then it changes nothing. Right now, you are effectively saying that if it were possible to somehow make everybody think and feel the same way, the issue of individual differences reflected in peoples choices, would dissolve and we could unanimously decide something being so. Very autistic thinking, reminiscent of the kook Curt Doolittle. But it changes nothing even if it were true, because its not a question of casting a vote, or using some warped and demented impression of dysgenics, applied through some crass and disturbing fly-morality, but whether people can perceive wrong and right individually and differently and they could still do so, even if you somehow made all of them think or receive reality in an identical way. And what about people who find the same food disgusting and tasty, when it is not poisoned?

This is the last time I correct you on what I have not said, from not, if you strawman me, I will ignore everything you say. I never said abortion is wrong, I said killing people out of convenience is wrong and abortion is an act of killing. I told you for whom it is wrong, idiot, like 10 times already…it is wrong…FOR ME. I think it is wrong. Whats wrong with you? Are you on drugs? And what consequences? You keep asking me about this consequences like a maniac and I keep telling you its irrelevant what the consequences will be because they have not yet happened and they are irrelevant anyhow, for the reasons I have told you like 10 times already. Lets do an experiment? You tell me what you think is right and demonstrate to me how you evaluate the consequences and show what is definitely right or wrong. A woman had a casual sex and now has a baby and wants to scrape it so that she doesnt have to raise a brat, since she doesnt want to have kids…Go on…show me your genius method and demonstrate how it works in practise…if you do, I will have to shut up and admit you are right.

take it easy you creepy kook, you can do whatever you want, id recommend sticking your head up your ass and leaving it there.

Wow, it’s almost as though Satyr never left at all!

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Your make believe friend’s rules are for the insane to live by. Only mentally unstable people have imaginary friends that they talk to and hear their voices in their head. You should consult a professional to get you on the proper meds, before you hurt someone. Meanwhile, keep your beliefs to yourself, and do not try to control other people!

No clue what you are even talking about.

Is someone spying on someone’s phone microphone? And probably camera if it isn’t covered?

Fess up!

P.s. How do you know he isn’t talking to me on his throwaway phone? :wink:

And that is somehow radically different from “Abortion is wrong”? Okay, maybe you didn’t say that every instance of abortion is wrong, only that instances where abortion is performed in order to make life easier are wrong. If that’s the case, can you now tell us why that sort of abortion is wrong?

Are you saying it’s wrong for you to abort a baby for the sake of easier life? I didn’t know you are a woman.

Or are you’re trying to say that other women aborting their babies for the sake of having more comfortable lives negatively affects you in some way? If that’s the case, tell us how it affects you.

So you make decisions without any regard for their consequences?

Fix your attitude and I may do it.

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Vos corps seront jetés à l’onde,
Vos noms voués au déshonneur.
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You are one shitter of a brain. Nothing but buts and ifs, maybies…you seed doubt and confusion and think you are smart. say something concrete for once, will you??? make a statement. not from a third perspective, not as if you are speaking to a crowd, not as if you are a dictionary…just say what YOU BELIEVE AND THINK…i have no time to chase your fucking tail endlessly. i said what i think…you have not…you just keep going about some abstract ‘process’ of ‘establishing consequences’…yes, killing another to increase your own comfort is unethical. it is wrong. comfort(pleasure) is a passion, passions are bottomless and are prone to making men mad and wicked, they need to be restrained not let completely loose to the point a civilised man or a civilised society allows to go as far as KILL to give vent to them.

but then again…morality CANNOT BE PRAGMATIC…basing morality or personal ethics on pragmaticism is innately contradictory since you are not entering from a perspective or right or wrong but an ever changing and individual convenient and inconvenient…if you want to do that AND NOT BE AN IDIOT…you must say there is no morality to speak of and the topic is closed for you.
an ethical position is individualistic. i say what i believe is right and wrong and the topic is finished. same for you and anybody else.

All I did is ask a number of questions. Does that amount to “seeding doubt and confusion”?

And then there is this “You think you are smart” complaint. What makes you think that? And who cares anyways? What’s the problem?

You got lost.

You made a claim. And you made it for other people to hear it and be persuaded by it. I responded to it by asking a series of questions. I take it that you didn’t like those questions.

You made an empty assertion. I am not one of those people who adopt beliefs based on how many times they are repeated. I respond to logic. So if you want to convince me – and you absolutely don’t have to – you have to actually show me the underlying process of reasoning that led you to adopt that particular belief of yours.

What you’re doing now is similar to artists responding to criticism with things such as “Well, if you think that my books / movies / songs are bad, then why don’t you make your own?” It’s a silly little defense mechanism employed by people who are obviously too sensitive to criticism. If you’re going to assert your beliefs ( in a sense, sell them to other people ), you are going to attract people who will respond to your efforts to persuade; and they will be under NO obligation to present their own beliefs ( i.e. counter-beliefs. )

Does that make it clear?

Beside that, you’re rude and very few people would actually bother interacting with you. That said, you should actually have some sort of respect for what I’m doing here. I expect nothing, of course. I think you have to do a lot of healing before you can do that.

I have demonstrated as much as I can. You have demonstrated nothing, only implied and critiqued. I could understand if you critiqued with concrete replies and said something yourself, you just disagree and ask vague and open ended questions, making it look as if you have said something whilst saying absolutely nothing.

That’s the end then.

I don’t think I have to demonstrate anything. I am not the one making the claim. You are.

I said what you have to do in order to be convincing. That’s akin to saying what the writer has to do in order to make the book enjoyable. So yes, I did say something; and it was very much concrete. Mayoe you just didn’t understand any of it, so to you, it looks like nothing at all. I don’t judge you for it but don’t be an ass.

You are a kooky idiot but we already know that given you believe in bullshit about ‘males’ having ‘one definite goal’ that you cant even describe and which ‘determines’ all other goals. You think this works in a way which somebody states something and justifies it and you just ask open ended questions endlessly until you are happy or else you just dismiss it as irrelevant? You cant show something is wrong without saying whats right or less wrong. Prove to me 1+1 does not equal 3 without showing me its equals 2…prove to me the sun isnt a moon without showing me a moon, convince anybody my way to build a house is wrong without in the very least showing why and how its wrong and hence clearly pointing out how it could be made better… you are living in a fantasy world.
isnt ICT industry booming over where you live? go find some autistic job with weirdo dimwits like yourself and leave common sense alone, common sense is hurting because of you.

You came here with the aim to convince others. You might not be aware of that but that’s what you’re doing. And if you want to convince us – or rather, if you want to convince me – you have to meet certain standards. I am merely informing you what you have to do in order to achieve that goal. It’s called “feedback”.

I already did that. I already told you what you have to do to be convincing and what you can do to make your posts more interesting to read ( even if everything you say is wrong. )

being convinced has nothing to do with anything you asshat, a goon who gets told you cant walk over water and isnt convinced has nothing to do with the validity of what is being said

stop acting like a single child unsocialised kook and show some balls and common-sense for once and open yourself up and simply speak your mind honestly and one to one, as if you were speaking to somebody on your level and were doing it spontaneously and genuinely. jesus you unsocialised single child kooks are weird as shit. you really dont interact with people much beyond artificial hellos? who speaks to somebody like you do???

I am not going to interrupt your self-talk, so feel free to continue.

Yes, and if you haven’t noticed, I wasn’t trying to prove your claim is wrong.

you limp dick kooks always find an excuse to run away