marriage is bullshit

[joekoba]

@Murex

I really don’t understand what it does. It’s just a word really, it’s not like the feelings you have with your partner is increased at the time of your marriage or anything. It’s just a silly ritual that really does nothing.

Does it give a sense of security to women? Does it mean the woman can start eating junkfood and gaining weight? Does it mean the man no longer can think for himself and has no social life after marriage? Why? Underneath it all, what is marriage really?

I’d say yes, it gives greater security for women moreso than men in general. This is why men often have to propose to the women, because they are the last ones to want to get married as this will give up their quest of impregnating as many women as possible. While for women, this proposal is mainly an emotional one towards the man. She has to “feel” this man won’t leave her. The man is primed to offer security, financial means, shelter, food, etc to maintain the health of his offspring and wife as well as himself. All of which is a huge investment in his energy and time as he as a bachelor uses it for gain of power, wealth, and sex from various women (if he chooses) Also he doesn’t have other mouths to feed unless he’s after sex or some friendly out of contract connection to another.

I’ll be honest. I’m unsure if I want to get married because of the loss of freedom that marriage entails. The unity of two people is marriage, and as such a loss of identity follows. Legally and in society’s view morally(emotionally) one becomes two in life.

[Kriswest]

@faust

Okay, Kris - here’s a question. How many times should you ask? If I ask the woman I love to marry me, which i haven’t yet, she will say no. How many times should I ask her? Until she tells me to go away and leave her alone? I think that’s about right - what do you think?

Why do you feel the need to marry her? I don’t think its about how many times or the right times, its about knowing that you are together forever without that bit of paper, especially at your age Faust… you should know this.

OK,OK,don’t keep asking, you make your self a pest… thats as bad as a dog drooling,panting in your face and staring at you while you are trying to eat. If you are happy together leave it. If she wants to commit that way, I do believe she will give you sufficient hints. Trust me we know you men need baseball bat sized hints. you will know.

Murex,

The difference between love and hormonal is possession. Lust makes you feel that the other is yours soley yours, it causes jealousy etc…, love does not.

Pardicat,

Love is the most difficult thing to find, and to keep healthy. But if you can do that, it is the most exquisite thing that you will ever have in your soul and heart. Its a gamble, its a risk, you have to expose yourself to another person, you have to trust, have faith ,have comfort with that person, you need to be able to fart and burp without worry or concern. You need to be able to be who you are without hiding yourself. And it takes accepting the other person for who they are. Its the biggest risk we can ever take. We must without thought, love the other person good and bad parts the same.

Its a bitch but oh so worth it. men know love as well as females. You men are just more slutty and love gets in the way of that .

[Faust]

Guess you’re right, Kris. Thanks.

[Rhinoboy]

@Murex

I really don’t understand what it does. It’s just a word really, it’s not like the feelings you have with your partner is increased at the time of your marriage or anything. It’s just a silly ritual that really does nothing.

Does it give a sense of security to women? Does it mean the woman can start eating junkfood and gaining weight? Does it mean the man no longer can think for himself and has no social life after marriage? Why? Underneath it all, what is marriage really?

Marriage is a means of securing sex even when your old and gray, unfortunatly the other person will most likely look worse than you do

[joekoba]

Noted: Kriswest is a Romantic.

[Murex]

@Erlir

what’s the difference between a union without a contract and no penalties for ending it, and a union of marriage? Answer: in entering marriage, departure from union becomes hard in that one faces severe consequences from society by getting either shunned morally, or fucked legally. This hardship, is in my opinion, the only purpose to a marriage union in lieu of a lifelong friendship.

If you love someone, then be with them. There is no need to make the union a marriage, unless one party feels their partner will want to leave, in which case the first party will probably want something restricting, or at the very least making it hard for their partner to leave.

It’s why we have verbal categories such as “just friends,” “friends with benefits,” “boyfriend/girlfriend,” “finances” and the last and hardest to get out of "marriage, in which barriers with some sort of difficulty to get out of are created. In simple friendship, you could tell your friend simply and honestly that you don’t like their company anymore and nothing would come of it. The same could be said about friends with benefits. And it gets harder and harder from there on, up until we get to marriage which was for a long time impossible to get out of alive.

Love is the rosy-one-way-mirror-like barb wire around the barrier that makes entering marriage tempting and leaving it difficult …typically effective only to women, though some, well most, men have come to believe their own bullshit as well.

I give this a standing ovation. =D> =D> =D>

[Murex]

@joekoba

Noted: Kriswest is a Romantic.

Yes. That’s very evidant. She’s either a fool, or a lucky fool.

She also thinks men are more slutty than women.

[Faust]

She may be neither - she is a woman, that much is for sure.

She is also correct. But young men couldn’t know that.

[joekoba]

We have yet to see a pic of her…so she may be neither woman or man.

What does young men have to do with this?

[Faust]

Testosterone poisoning.

[Murex]

@faust

She may be neither - she is a woman, that much is for sure.

She is also correct. But young men couldn’t know that.

I’ve encountered far more female sluts than male sluts. FAR more.

[Faust]

It could be that you are just paying more attention to the females.

Mathematics would suggest that there isn’t a big differential.

[joekoba]

So older man tell me about testosterone poisoning and why this affects Romance so much that younger men couldn’t know it.

[Faust]

It clouds the mind and provides for much fun. And much trouble. And troublesome fun, and fun trouble. It also makes it difficult to imagine remaining faithful to a woman. It is the motive, the hunger, that provides impetus for the hunt.

This is news to you?

I guess it is.

Deep in the throes of testosterone poisoning, it’s tough to know you’re deep in the throes.

I think I still have it, by the way.

[Murex]

@faust

It could be that you are just paying more attention to the females.

Mathematics would suggest that there isn’t a big differential.

Me? I pay little to no attention to females. I’m far too sexist to pay attention to them. I prefer to dissolve my instinctive desires so I don’t have to play the silly game.

Naked women always offer me apples.

[pardicat]

@Kriswest

Pardicat,

Love is the most difficult thing to find, and to keep healthy. But if you can do that, it is the most exquisite thing that you will ever have in your soul and heart. Its a gamble, its a risk, you have to expose yourself to another person, you have to trust, have faith ,have comfort with that person, you need to be able to fart and burp without worry or concern. You need to be able to be who you are without hiding yourself. And it takes accepting the other person for who they are. Its the biggest risk we can ever take. We must without thought, love the other person good and bad parts the same.

Its a bitch but oh so worth it. men know love as well as females. You men are just more slutty and love gets in the way of that .

In other words, if the love I feel for you is not reciprocated then my gamble has been unsuccessful. In other words you have to feel a particular way about me and if you don’t I can’t be happy.

With that condition, it’s no wonder love is difficult to find. It’s no wonder love would prove difficult to keep healthy over a long period of time.

Nevermind the different ideas of just what love is… evidently you and I differ in our opinion of that. I’d like to ask what I consider a very pointed question: why do people want love?

[Murex]

IMO, love is a form of greed.

[pardicat]

@Murex

@faust

She may be neither - she is a woman, that much is for sure.

She is also correct. But young men couldn’t know that.

I’ve encountered far more female sluts than male sluts. FAR more.

If we’re including gays in the discussion then boys are the bigger sluts.

[joekoba]

Testosterone only provides me with head aches. And women, migraines. I’ll take the head aches without the migraines. Thank you.
But hey I’m the typical red blooded american male whose poisonous levels of testosterone deludes the mind into thinking that fidelity is not a good choice.

Actually, one women would be my choice, if I were to choose.

[ANightAtTheOpera]

All women are crazy! Please understand that women can’t be tamed, which is why they try to tame their men. And the so called “free spirited” women are even more crazy. I dated a few of them. But we are all crazy. Marriage-I really keep thinking about “The Princess Bride”- just puts a man in a position to be yelled at, fussed at, and then it leaves room for a woman to complain about how bad the man is in bed. Think about it; marriage is a test of iron will