Marxist Conquest of the US

This is horseshit, they push for a ton of economic policies.

I already have several times, are you on medication?

[b]Black Lives Matter Toronto issues 27 demands for reform in major anti-police protest

https://www.thestar.com/news/gta/2020/06/19/we-demand-better-we-demand-our-lives-black-lives-matter-toronto-protesters-call-for-defudning-of-police.html

The group made 27 demands on Friday. These included immediately redirecting at least half the $1.1 billion police budget toward the communities affected by police racism. They called for investing in secure, long-term housing for street-involved and unhoused communities, food securities programs, public transit, public health, public libraries and community-led anti-violence programs.

Other demands included: demilitarizing the police by removing all weaponry and ending Emergency Task Force (ETF) and Emergency Response Teams (ERTs), among others; removing police and school resource officers in all schools; reducing the scope of police; ending the practice of carding: documenting police violence; decriminalizing poverty, drugs, HIV and prostitution.[/b]

As we can see from above, this movement is about far more than police brutality, they make all kinds of social, political and economic demands.

Again, police brutality is just the tip of the iceberg for BLM.

[b]Our freedom is not and should have never been up for negotiation, and so Black Lives Matter Vancouver issues the following demands and calls to action:

https://blacklivesmattervancouver.com/vancouver-dismantle-systems-of-violence/

The City of Vancouver must redirect financial resources from the Vancouver Police Department towards initiatives that demonstrably support long-term community safety. This includes child care support, education, comprehensive mental health intervention and social support, local restorative justice services, employment programs, access to recreational facilities, community-directed public investment, peer-based programming, culturally-led policies and more.

The City of Vancouver must commit to improving social conditions across the city with a commitment to the goal of eventually abolishing police and prisons, as they serve the primary purpose of oppressing marginalized communities and protecting the riches of the wealthy minority of denizens.[/b]

[b]Black Los Angeles Demands in Light of COVID-19 and Rates of Black Death

https://www.blmla.org/newsfeed/2020/4/16/black-los-angeles-demands-in-light-of-covid-19-and-rates-of-black-death

Black people are dying at two-three times our population share from COVID-19. In Los Angeles County, the rate of Black death is twice our population share, with Black people constituting 9% of the County population, but 17% of the COVID-19 deaths. With nearly 900,000 Black residents in the County and 403,000 Black residents in the City (the eighth highest number of any city in the United States), what happens in Los Angeles has serious national implications. While several initiatives have been launched nationally, state-wide and locally, none speak to the particular needs of the Black community. The disproportionate and deadly impact of COVID-19 on the Black community magnifies what we have known, that “underlying conditions” result from an enduring system of racial apartheid and oppression. Interlocking economic, political, and social injustices collide with long-standing patterns of medical racism to make COVID-19 a Black issue that demands a response specific to the needs of the Black community.

The demands were developed by a coalition of more than 50 Black Los Angeles-based community leaders. Included are both immediate demands meant for emergency implementation during the Coronavirus crisis, and long-term demands, necessary to eradicate the underlying conditions that are at the root of the disproportionate impact of the public health crisis and economic fallout.

The drafted demands respond to the urgency of the moment in light of the COVID-19 crisis and related fallout. To address the demands, a significant share of stimulus and public funding must be earmarked as grants for the Black community and ongoing program funding should be redirected from police and law enforcement budgets to provide resources that bring real public safety. While the list is substantial, it was written under severe time-constraints and is not meant to be exhaustive or inclusive of the total set of Black community needs.

Immediate Demands:

Testing, Public Health, and Patient Rights

  1. Complete collection and release of Los Angeles County and California data on COVID-19 cases and deaths, with particular focus on areas with large Black populations.
    
  2. Universal access to non-invasive testing in Black communities throughout the County, especially South Central Los Angeles, Watts, Skid Row, Compton, and Inglewood.
    
  3. Any COVID-19-related testing or future vaccinations must be voluntary, not mandatory or conditional for employment, education, access to public resources, or any other economic, political, or social functioning.
    
  4. Prohibit sharing non-COVID-19-related medical information and required destruction of COVID-19-related medical records held by entities other than direct healthcare providers, including government and private parties, to preserve patient privacy rights.
    
  5. Collection of self-identified racial, gender, income, age, occupation, employment-status, geographic residency, and housing-status data at first point of medical contact.
    
  6. No forced removal of people from their homes under the guise of quarantine, or for any other reason.
    
  7. Allowance for a support partner and medical advocate of patient’s choosing during any procedure or treatment, and, if needed at time of death.
    
  8. On-demand, free medical care for Black residents of Los Angeles County during the COVID-19 crisis.
    

Education and Families

  1. Adoption of all Students Deserve education demands by Los Angeles Unified School District and all districts County-wide.
    
  2. Continuance of visitation and reunification programs (in distance-learning format as necessary) for parents with children under the authority of the Department of Children and Family Services, and freezing of reunification timelines.

Support for Black Workers and Small Business Owners

  1. Public contracting with Black-owned restaurants and stores for healthy food and supply delivery during the pandemic and beyond.

  2. Resources, not “enforcement,” for Black-owned businesses that have not been able to shut down during the crisis.

  3. Guaranteed, timely assistance filing for economic resources, including unemployment and small business loans and grants.

  4. Support for Black essential workers, especially those who are underpaid (including gig economy workers), by providing hazard pay, protective equipment, hotel rooms to mitigate the possibility of passing the virus to family members, and an ongoing livable wage and paid sick leave.

  5. Income supplement of $2000 per month per adult and $1000 per month per child for all Black residents for the duration of the pandemic and economic fallout.

Public Safety

  1. Employ properly-equipped, non-violent, community care workers as neighborhood resources, instead of expanding patrols by funding police and law enforcement.

  2. Funding for neighborhood-based community care plans in Black communities throughout the County, especially South Central Los Angeles, Watts, Skid Row, Compton, and Inglewood.

  3. Moratorium on all non-violent arrests.

  4. Dismissal of all non-violent criminal warrants and citations.

Housing

  1. On-demand, safe housing and supportive resources for unsheltered people and those fleeing unsafe conditions in unused hotel and motel rooms and vacant housing units.

  2. Cancellation of rents and mortgages, and replacement of rental income to non-corporate Black property owners until the pandemic and economic fallout subsides.

  3. Stop all sweeps of houseless settlements and provide bathrooms, showers, hand washing stations, soap, water, laundry vouchers, dumpsters, vermin abatement, and cleaning supplies.

Criminal Justice Reform

  1. Immediate release of all people who are pretrial, bail-eligible, elderly, youth, pregnant, infirmed, immuno-comprimised and those held on parole/probation violations or infractions/non-serious misdemeanors from jails or detention.

  2. Immediate release of all people who are parole-eligible, parole-suitable, elderly, youth, pregnant, infirmed, immuno-comprimised and those held on parole violations or non-violent felonies from prisons.

  3. Provision of free housing, healthcare, food resources, and community reintegration support (including help acquiring documents like legal identification) for all people returning from prison, jail, or detention.

  4. Continuance of rehabilitative programs offered by community-based organizations to incarcerated people who will not be released through distance-learning to allow them to continue to earn time off their sentences.

  5. Mandatory usage of personal protective equipment (PPE) by all correctional staff in jails and prisons and provision of PPE to all incarcerated people.

Transportation

  1. Free public transportation for all for the duration of the pandemic and economic fallout.

  2. Cancellation of fare evasion citations on public transportation.

Other Resources

  1. Funding to provide free, culturally-competent funeral and burial/cremation services for COVID-19 deaths.

  2. Resources for culturally-competent community education on safer-at-home practices led by Black organizers and educators, with a corresponding prohibition of arrests, fines, and citations in response to safer-at-home violations.

  3. Provision of free face-coverings and gloves at all COVID-19 testing sites, food distribution centers, open public facilities, grocery stores, restaurants, and essential businesses.

Long Term Demands:

Reparations

  1. Reparations for all Black victims of COVID-19 (or their families in cases of death), who were unable to get support due to the lack of testing, access to healthcare, and/or overall medical racism.

Healthcare

  1. Universal, quality, accessible healthcare.

  2. Funding for Black-led, culturally-competent, free exercise and wellness classes in Black communities throughout the County, especially South Central Los Angeles, Watts, Skid Row, Compton, and Inglewood.

  3. Funding for free culturally-competent counseling and mental health resources for Black residents of Los Angeles County.

  4. Medical education that centers cultural-competency, and interrogates implicit bias and anti-Black racism and ongoing retraining of medical professionals in these areas.

Environment

  1. Funding for organizations that address and work to remedy overarching environmental racism in Black communities.

Food Security

  1. Weekly farmers markets in Black communities throughout the County, especially South Central Los Angeles, Watts, Skid Row, Compton, and Inglewood.

  2. Vouchers for fresh produce for Black residents of Los Angeles County that are universally accepted at all places that sell food.

  3. Funding for culturally-competent healthy eating and food preparation classes run by Black-led organizations.

  4. Creation and maintenance of urban farmland and urban farming education in Black communities throughout the County, especially South Central Los Angeles, Watts, Skid Row, Compton, and Inglewood.

  5. Funding for Black organizations to start and support maintenance of home-based gardens in Black communities throughout the County, especially South Central Los Angeles, Watts, Skid Row, Compton, and Inglewood.

Education

  1. Recruitment of and scholarships for Black students to pursue careers in healthcare, including naturopathy and holistic medicinal practices.

  2. Funding for Black scholarships, student recruitment, retention, and graduation initiatives at Charles Drew University.

  3. Guaranteed admission, scholarship, and support programming for Black students to all public colleges and universities.

Housing

  1. Declare housing as a human right and provide universal permanent housing for all.

Criminal Justice Reform

  1. Automatic diversion services for all arrests of those under age 25, covering all offenses

  2. Funding for and prioritization of alternatives to incarceration.

Public Safety

  1. Prioritization of culturally-competent community solutions and resources to address public safety, including livable wage jobs, mental health services, after school programs, and community care workers, instead of police and law enforcement.

Transportation

  1. Free public transportation for all, beginning with K-12 youth and seniors.

  2. Double MTA schedule and make service available 24-hours-per-day and 7-days-per-week.

Other Resources

  1. Free, quality, universal childcare.

  2. Provide ample high quality, safe, accessible recreational spaces and cultural services including: parks, facilities, programs, and special events.

  3. Financial incentives to create and maintain worker-controlled cooperatives.[/b]

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gloom all that stuff on the list seems awesome

No problem.

Yes Gloominary is guilty of the fallacy of composition.
Its a sort of false induction too.
Falsely understanding the whole from one of its parts.

By the same token IBM would be communist too, since it supports BLM.

builtin.com/diversity-inclusion … al-justice

No you have made a childish error in philosophy called the fallacy of composition.

The REASON you have chosen to make a fool of yourself is, I think, because you are deep down a RACIST, and instictively dislike anything that challenges your white supremacy.

IBM is also Marxist, since it supports a Marxist organisation.builtin.com/diversity-inclusion … al-justice

Are you against equal pay??

Is that such a bad idea?

Thin end of the wedge FALLACY.

You are doing well today

All sounds good to me. Point 55 is almost Marxist, but only an incentive. You might have to do better than that.

Would you like me to point out all the POINTS that are ANTI_Marxist??

Some of it does sound cool, free this and that, but if the trade-off is a two-tiered society, one tier for ‘BIPOC’, women, the vaxxed and another for whites, men and the unvaxxed, tearing up the constitution, massive government overreach, living in pods and eating bugs, open borders, abolishing prisons, the police and replacing them with what, gangs, the red army?
Then I’ll pass.
These people don’t just want western civilization + some more wealth redistribution and some free shit, they want a reset, a do-over, and they’re willing to commit violence en masse.
I agree there oughta be more wealth redistribution from the top 1 to the bottom 99% but we gotta count cost.
Marxism sounded cool too in a lot of ways and that’s what this is, Marxism 2.0.

IBM’s support is shallow, like most people, they probably don’t know what BLM is really about, they’re just virtue signaling, they have nothing to gain and everything to lose under Marxism.
I have no reason to doubt the sincerity of BLM’s support for Marxism.

It’s not just one of its parts, like one or a few of its associates or soldiers happens to be Marxist, its leaders are trained Marxists and the organization’s activity is an attempt to push society far left socially, politically and economically, towards Marxism.


EXCEPT you??
:laughing: :laughing:
“Marxism” is not a reason not to support BLM, even if you don’t like Marxism.
In the same way you cannot redict the usefulness, character and aims of various Christian groups by looking at what Jesus said.

Right on.
Gee if dat Marxism call me a marxist!!

I think I’m gonna buy a BLM bumber sticker. :laughing:

Yeah well how we gonna pay for all that shit? You think money just rolls off the press?

And look at what a disaster Marxism was in China, Russia, Cuba, vietNAM, and now in North Korea. Plus Marx was a racist.

Yes. money does , in fact do just that.
Money is created on a computer screen.
It what happens to the money that is important.

And most of the stuff on that list would generate money, as it would help people stay evonomically active and generate tax dollars.

Have to the slightest notion of how the economy works?