# Math and Poetry

I’ve been setting mathematical patterns to metre. trying to create a symmetry that isn’t flimsy or too intrusive. i think math has a definite aesthetic. have you heard of any other poets who do this? i write poetry for philosophers…so why not add the logical side of it all: math?
any how, thats all.

I’m interested, but I’ve only ever written one sonnet, so I don’t have much to add… but if you keep posting, I’ll keep observing.

I like ordered poetry for the same reason I like working math problems. It just feels good to calculate – even more so when you’re dealing with words stuffed with meaning.

can you give an example?

id also be interested in an example…

the first example i don’t like as much but the math pattern is easy to comprehend.
its: 3.9.12.4.3.9.12.4.3
three plus nine equals twelve divided by four equals three…
i’m working on this. learning new math.

must knowledge
be verified through validity?
how can one mode be the all-encompassing way?
intuition:
we are the animals we forget,
anchored to our instincts, that is, until now.
are we changed?
evolved?

another example:
1.2.5.10.3.14.1.2.5.10.3.14
the difference between the numbers is a matter of adding and subtracting primes.

here
the start
signification
halted by a ‘res cogitans’, we are,
I am not
forgivenness can be brought back after the lemon moon dies,
sunk
behind the transparent fortress of sense-distilled thought
patiently
awaiting the world to grow another
means for to enter
latent
now

well, its just an experiment anyways. i write free verse but i like the challenge of something new.
thanks

Ahh, yes, I understand now…the numbers represent the number of syllables in each line of poetry…very interesting. However, this still does not really make mathematics seem more aesthetic unless you have some way of utilizing a pattern in what you write.

Poetry has a tendancy to use mathematical patterns, like haikus or sonnets, if you develop a new mathematical pattern to apply to a form of poetry, then you’re on to something.

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the fibonacci sequence has long been considered aestheticically pleasing… read the davinci code…
another aesthetically pleasing number is phi, the divine proportion, the golden number which is 1.61803399 examples of whice are everywhere in nature and also art for example Da Vinci’s wok. it’s not a sequence but considered the most beautiful number maybe you could some how use that. it has close connections with the fibinacci sequence?
like the poetry btw. and love abgrunds fibonaccie poem

e.e.cummings made some number poems. i think you do it differently, but it might be worth your checking out.

144, man!

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yeah i thought it was something like that with the fibonacci sequence and phi, cheers, will look him up. i don’t actually write poetry however, working on his sequence thing earlier i was thinking aong the lines of…
1.61803399 1 syllable the 6 then 1 then 8 (can’t do nought, so leave a gap, new verse) then 3 3 9 9. you get two equal verses, it could be interesting. i like the 5 to 8 ratio poem, was cool.

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What does anyone think of the “e” natural logarithmic exponent?

2.718281828459045…

Some mathematians have said that 1828 was the last year any decent music was composed. (Or perhaps the year Hegel realised he was the end of history??) And the following numbers are, of course, the angles of a isoceles right triangle.

Just a number that could have been set as anything at the world’s creation, i suppose.

its an interesting number but on the grounds that it’s an irrational number it could be difficult to write poetry to it…
could it have been set at anything at the beginning of time it hink nt, as if a degree was what a degree is now and a right isoceles triangle the smae then it would impossible for it to be different…

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no should i?

hesse? glass bead game? i’ve read it more than once. i’m a big big fan altogether. i see the connection. i think that book is worthwhile to anyone who is a fan of both philosophy and fiction. i wrote a thesis on hesse and nietzsche last year.
the glass bead is a game that synthesizes all strands of intellectual thought. the game itself is never explained, but patterns of…lets say of a chinese philosopher could be synthesized with bach. you could do this only if you were clever enough at the game…of course.

Thanks all of you for sharing your creativity. Beautiful.

thank you