MEASURE

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MEASURE

To measure nature with absolute certainty,
one would need a tool of absolute certainty.
Unfortunately for science, there is no such thing!
Measure?

MJA

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radioactive dating is just one example of how you are wrong.
but that is all it takes to effectively show that you are full of it.
“absolute certainty” is a concept that is pretty black and white,
I would open my mind up a little bit if i were you.

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True.

But that teeters close to the post-modern foolishness that because we can’t attain perfection, we may as well not try.

Oftentimes, close enough is good enough. Consistency is generally more important than accuracy anyway.

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Perfection or certainty or truth is attainable
by the smplification proccess of removing
any inperfection, or uncertainty or untruth.
By removing the uncertainty of measure
The simple truth is all that remains.

MJA

“I at any rate, am convinced that he does not throw dice”.

Albert Einstein

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You are absolutely right (hehe). Subjective experience is always inaccurate. More so at some times than at others, but always to a degree.

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Yes, but without the measurement how can we know what we have is truth? A ruler cannot tell me EXACTLY what 5cm is (if it happens to exist in a purely rational sense) but I remove the ruler and I am less able to find my 5cm length. Measurement may not be 100% accurate (in any circumstance), but statistics has developed means whereby standards of ‘good enough’ can be employed to receive useful (while maybe not TRUE) information.

Always innacurate? How can that be, if it is what you experience and you are with all your faculties isn’t the subjective experience the only truly accurate thing you can be exposed to? How can something be true if the subjective experience is always innacurate, that makes EVERYTHING innacurate because we are all mediated by a subjective experience.

Post-modern foolishness? :astonished:

I don’t know if they don’t try, they are merely convinced it is pointless.

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That’s right.

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Perhaps the certainty of truth can be had, by removing the uncertainty of measure or difference, leaving simply nature’s unity, equallity or oneness of all.

MJA

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Are you absolutely certain that we can’t be absolutely certain?
-If so, how does this certainty differ from scientific certainty? Don’t they have a common root?
-If not, isn’t your statement self defeating? If we can’t be absolutely certain, we can’t be absolutely certain that we can’t be absolutely certain, or that we’re not already.

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Yes.

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Is absolute certainty or truth more simple than thought?

Is thought the uncertainty that separates us from truth.

Should Descartes famous line “I think therefore I am,” be completed with the word: uncertain?

Can thought be simplified to a single truth?

Is equality nature’s oneness?

Is oneness the single truth?

If all is equal is all one?

Is nature’s truth equality?

Is equal the single truth that will set us free?

Is = the foundation of every equation or problem?

Is = the true definition of justice?

Does equality solve inhumanity?

Is the solution to inequality, only a change of thought to equal?

Are black and white equal?

Is Yin and Yang one? o

Do the walls of uncertain difference divide?

Does the truth of equality unite?

Does not equal mean all of nature?

YES!!!

MJA