Mein Kampf

After reading 40 or so pages from “Four and a Half Years of Struggle against Lies, Stupidity and Cowardice” which was changed by the publishers to ‘my struggle’, I became convinced that Hitler is an overwhelming patriot of the German people. The least to be said is that his writing is full of conviction. He is a man of great will, great passion and of great love for his people. The man is a genius!

hitler.org/writings/Mein_Kampf/

EDIT: I disagree with Hitler on the issue of racial superiority or inferiority for that matter. But I believe in racial differences. What do we call “chairs”, “tables”? and we can’t classify people by colour? Discrimination is only natural. A woman is discriminative when she says the office is full of men. Hitler’s writing made my blood boil. Of all the books I have read, his book not only moved me, but it SHOOK me to the core. I wonder what it would be like to actually attend one of his rallies? His intellectual criticisms aside, he was able to toss me around, and I have read many books. I sigh every few pages because it is just so engaging and exciting to be reading such heart pounding work! Whether you agree/disagree, the book is certainly a must read.

“If only he had used his power for goodness and niceness instead of for evil.” – Maxwell Smart

Are we leaving Catholicism now, PoR? (That was fast.)

Postscriptum:

Do you categorise tables and chairs by their color too?

Adolf was a Catholic.

EDIT: the issue you need to understand is that MAN IS A DISCRIMINATING ANIMAL. see epistmology. we learn by grouping things. grouping things is all too natural (lol, I am starting to speak like Adolf). It is only natural to discriminate the different. The prob with ‘do onto others as yourself’ is that others is not yourself. so it makes no sense to do that. why do you look after your own kids and not others?

‘Was’ is right. Hitler was an apostate from his youth – which might be even more evil, having rejected the truth once having had it presented to him.

Talk to a good priest; even racial jokes are intrinsically evil.

politically incorrect maybe, but never evil.

I advice you to read his writing before you pass judgement of any sort. to do so would be irresponsible. When I read the book, I felt Hitler to be my kindred spirit in our love for our people. He was mistaken in his views on social darwinism but that does not make his writing non-orgasmic.

Nationalist loves his nation. A racist loves his people. A real racist display to us the depth of his love for his own people. A racist would help even a whore of his own people than be bought by foreigner.

*keep in mind I am not taking about superiority

The thing that you miss out on is that there is no such thing and a race (especially when it’s just an ethnic group, like Germans) and there is no such thing as a nation. These are all constructs. He was doing what he accused Jews of doing and that is defending a fantasy.

I say a real man loves humanity and embraces reality.

TheAdlerian

then why do people look different?

which country do you live in?

but the constructs exist!

what is humanity but a pile of scums? yes, embrace the brutal reality that we are all different!

EDIT: what is most cowardly is to pretend we are same while we are in truth different.

The point is that we are not the same, but the differences may not amount to much. I know Polish people and Germans and there is not a big difference in looks. Frankly, I doubt that in a thousand years there will even be such places and if there is the people that live there will be much different.

I live in America and yet I do not live in the same America of 100 or 200 years ago. It is ever changing as is the country that you live in. A country is not a concrete fact. If everyone in America decided to change the name of the place to hotdog, then I would be living in Hotdog.

Loyalties to these ideas are like have loyalties to a gust of wind.

Also, people are not scum. Are you having a bad day or what.

Hitler might have been interesting, and I can understand his motives, but he was just too extreme. If he had good ideas more people would have embraced him.

its all relative.

everything is the same because it is different.

everything is different because it is the same.

grouping things is what the uneducated and closedminded do.

I wonder who’s going to start labeling PoR a Nazi Catholic.

If you study the Nazis you will find that they weren’t Christian. Rather, they had ideas that were like something out of a sci-fi novel.

A while back, I watched a show on the History Channel about the Nazis and their obsession with mysticism.

PoR is basically the main stereotypical sheep christian.

someone needs to burn mein kampf so that other idiots dont stumble upon it and start a “revolution”.
those bitches.

Mein Kampf was a first draft for Dianetics by L. Ron Hubbard.

do you find any (wel rounded/balanced) truth in scientology?

I read the book and know a thing or two about Scientology.

Hubbard borrowed a lot of ideas from various therapies that have fairly good principles. Gestalt therapy being the main one with a little cognitive therapy thrown in.

The basics behind Gestalt therapy is that we hide our true selves behind layers of fake personalities. For instance, you might present to the world as a sweet person when under neither you are an aggressive and greedy person or a real hard-ass might be hiding a tenderness. Anyway, the goal is find your core personality and act on it. Gestalt therapy may actually be the inventor of the phase “keep it real” as that is the goal.

Scientology has a machine called the “clear machine” that is a type of mini lie detector. A person will ask you questions about your life as you hold the machine. It will indicate if you are lying. The goal is then to work on telling the truth and thus becoming a “clear” and this is exactly the goal in Gestalt therapy where one seeks to be “congruent“ with one‘s internal and external presentation.

Scientology also talks about something called “engrams” (spelling?). These are chunks of thought that program a person in a certain way. It is claimed that even at the moment of conception the noises that people make can affect the baby’s mind. That’s bizarre.

Anyway, the basic idea is a lot like cognitive therapy’s idea that the thought that you think are the main determinant of your actions. What you think and believe you will do.

So, it appears to me that Scientology ripped off several good ideas that were already out there and added a new twist. It’s a big twist too.

The group works as if you are taking classes at a school. The more classes that you take then the higher that you go. Of course the higher that you go the more that you have to pay. A person could spend hundreds of thousands of dollars from what I understand.

I have read accounts by people that have gotten out of Scientology, and have broken their nondisclosure contracts, that the final “lesson” is that you learn about this ancient despot from another planet named Xeno (or something) that sent all of these beings to Earth and then killed them. It’s their negative energy that sticks to us and makes us unhappy. Scientology is the method by which we get rid of their unhappy legacy.

So, Scientology works on people’s minds in a couple of simple ways. Firstly, if you mix good ideas with crazy ideas it can make the crazy ideas seem legitimate. It uses a lot of scientific claims that have little validity. For instance, they will say something like: It is a well known fact that fetuses can understand what people are saying. Well, it’s not a “well known fact” at all. However, if you have the audacity to say that it is, then some people will believe you. Finally, if you pay large amounts of money for something then you are more likely to value it. After you pay 100,000,000 for the “truth” you probably want to believe that it is the Truth.

My mind is boggled that anyone believes the final aspect of it all.

LOL! Dammit I haven’t read a good L. Ron Hubbard bash in a while… nice one there Pheadrus.

If you look in depth into what Himmler envisioned the Schutzstaffel as, you’d find tons of symbology and ritualistic mysticism. In the birth days of the SS, Himmler was looking to form a modern cult perfectly suited to Hitler’s dream of a future Germany, and Arian World.

It’s very interesting stuff.

TheAdlerian

yet, there are differences

that makes it more urgent for us to preserve our own unique identity

because people back then were too liberal

then you have no identity

embracetrees

what rubbish!

have you ever heard of chairs/tables? by your definition chair=table. why don’t you use a single word to describe all objects?

Sagesound

Adolf can’t be held responsible for the actions of his disloyal followers.