Once in a while you get a black person arguing that jesus was black. Sometimes around Christmas time you see nativity scenes populated with a black Mary, Joseph, and Jesus. I’ve even seen figurines of a black Santa Claus.
Whenever I see a poster with Santa being portrayed as black, I think “psh, yeah right. Santa is definately not black… neither is jesus.” People will argue that it doesn’t matter what race jesus was, it’s the message that counts. They say that because they are programmed with a politically correct attitude. That’s a good thing. Imagine the uproar if you were in a middle eastern country (like the countryside of afghanistan) and you were holding a gigantic sign that said “Mohammed (pbuh) was WHITE!” You might find yourself without a head. It just shows the level of social advancement the west has undergone as compared with places where church and state will never be separate.
I’m just wondering if blacks ever find themselves in a sort of cultural limbo, and what they think about it. Whites brought you to the new world, and later set you free. People like MLK Jr. worked to get you equal rights. Now, after generations have past, you believe in Jesus… you teach your kids about Santa Clause… the Easter Bunny… probably the tooth fairy… pretty much every white myth that you were exposed to. They are accepted as the great experiment known as the melting pot America. But is it truely a melting pot, or is it an assimilation?
The last thing I want is for this OP to cause racial tension. I firmly believe that one major problem with America is the fact that racial issues are sort of taboo to discuss, for the same reason it’s not polite to talk about religion or politics. I don’t think it should be taboo, and if it weren’t, it would promote understanding and perhaps social advancement.
I’ll repeat the question… and this is directed mostly toward blacks, but feel free to answer no matter who you are… Do you feel as if America is truely a melting pot, or is it’s current state the product of people from another culture assimilating to white standards of morality and superstition?
A number of American whites don’t posses empathy for people of color (even if they are fairly tolerant), likely because white skin privilege has made it unnecessary for us to reflect at length on what race and assimilation actually mean. As a result, these same people are unaware that they make assumptions about the culture they live in that are fundamentally flawed. For example, you’ve ignored that the transfer of cultures has been both ways. Ever listen to rock 'n roll? Eat a taco? Perhaps it’s some white people who are in cultural limbo…
Well Santa has origins in Slavic and Norse Germanic myths so its pretty safe to say he is white. As for Jesus it doesn’t take much to look at the middle east and figure out his race, after all he was the “king of the jews”.
While many would like to retain the original meaning of certain holidays or religions it is also worth keeping in mind that many of these traditions and ideas have been entirely emptied of their original content or have been replaced by new ideas over generations.
As for race it is my observation that whites seem to care more about multiculturalism and racism than non-whites. It’s like I’ve always said, the most anti-white people in America are white liberal college professors.
Please, enlighten me. What are the white standards of morality and superstition? For that matter, what are the black standards of morality and superstition? Or any other racial category? I wasn’t aware that a person’s morality and/or superstition could be known simply by looking at their skin-tone. Are you serious?
That is correct, but his name was inserted into an older Norse-Germanic myth, mostly in an attempt to Christianize paganism. In his own right he would become of great mythological stature. There are also legends of Saint Nicholas stretching all the way into Africa.
I was discussing the adaptation of myths from other cultures and the original meaning and purpose behind those myths.
You are massively uninformed on a number of issues you ‘talk’ about.
By the way i don’t know if it is politicaly incorrect but your wording is philosophically incorrect in other words, they don’t make much sense.
Also political correct is often used for a form of untruth or unjust that is excused to be viewed as opposite that. by using the word “blacks” your not being specific, does that mean everyone of colour ?or what ? and are you saying that every “black” person is the same ? in which case saying humans would be more accurate. maybe you mean poor people of colour ? if so they are far from free be it in America or any other westernized place.
Santa was indeed turkish and brown and Jesus was also a brown colour.
What I think you see as assimilating to political correctness as a response to a demand of one oppressed race, I see as people falling into the groove of American living. A disposition defined not by color, but rather economic status, social pressures/demands, and the spread of wildly varying ideas and belief systems via mass media. It’s not so much a racial position as it is western society becoming more tolerant and putting higher value on equality and diversity, (though being rather confused about it, the idea is still there)
ROFL, The USA is a melting pot, wait till the fire gets hot enough for the melting to really be seen. We are all here because we want to be. We just have not quite melted thouroghly yet. Be patient we are still young yet.