Men want to feel necessary, Women want to feel special

Men want to feel necessary to a woman.
Women want to feel special to a man.

Problem is, both of these feelings are rooted in fear of a disturbing truth.

Men are unnecessary.
Women are not special.

If this gap can be bridged, then empathy can exist between men and women. However, I don’t believe that men and women really want to look through the other’s eyes. People stay confined within their gender.

This is why women hate wearing the same outfit as another woman.

This is why men compete for attention.

I want to be special.
I do want to be necessary, but I also want to be special.

And can’t one be special to someone else, hence giving a lot of people the chance to be special?
Not an essentialist special, but a relation-based one.

Sure. All men have the same characteristic and all women have another characteristic. And this one characteristic completely determines behavior.

Mundane babble.

Phyllo you’re right.

Great dismissal, it only took you one sentence too.

The reason why it’s actually a great one is because you’re right.

I don’t think so much of what you seem to think is attributable to gender is actually attributable to gender.

Generalizing things like this is the reason why we dont have a good psicology field.

No doubt. It’s the same philosophical problem that we overcome in the legal system by analyzing cases on a one by one basis rather than deciding them first and then analyzing after. Shit’s deep man. It’s hard for most people to understand shit like that.

They have learned to be mundane for that very reason. Although it takes one to be necessary to be special. How special is some unnecsary thing?

How special is a woman who multitasks, home chores, a job, which invariably takes away from the husband’s sense of being necessary, even if she is unaware of it?

This is an example where thinking one is special results in the opposite.

Another example where counter arguments veiling a lack of how definitions are familiarised.

Would be great if games of this sort worked, but rununder, gotta hand it to you. What it does, on a different level, is to confuscate meaning. Below that, well nietzche warned about that, but I suppose harmless if only appearent.

If it’s not, then I’ll simply change my argument, and presume that nurture over nature is true, while nature over nurture is false.

It won’t change the premise, though. It will only change how I go about proving the premise.

Man you can paint up all kinds of shit and make whatever argument you like. When you conclude something that’s incorrect, even though you’ve got good arguments, then you’re gonna have to get philosophical, which is really boring. I’d stick to this socio-political propaganda schtick you’ve got going. It suits you and I think it’s really more your level.

So where did you get these strange caricatures?
Will you also be telling us then men are from Mars and women from Venus too?
You’ll be telling us that black people are lazy, and that Jews are avaricious next!
#-o

What? Like they don’t do a huge amount of research, some at the very least, by exceedingly careful professionals.

I Think that thinking like rununder’s in the OP is why we can’t instantenously travel to the galactic center.

OK, there seems to be a reigning
generalizations about men and women are wrong per se
in this thread in response to rununder.

So like there are no tendencies in, for example, empathy and aggression?

Generalisations are ok when pretaining to conditions and the setting of the rules of engagements. What expectations are, can be corralted to these conditions as reasonable or not.

No, both wants to be nessesary, only ficle or vane people wants to feel special.

It’s the same story over, and over. Young troublemakers often become more mature when they are given a purpose where they can feel selfrespect. They are heavily prone to father/mother figures who can mentally overwhelm them in a respectful way.

1 man can fertilize a society of 1000 women.
1000 men cannot fertilize a society of 1 woman.

Men are unnecessary compared to women. For 1 man out of 1000 to fertilize the 1 woman, he must be super competitive and an apex male. He must use violence, and avoid violence, in order to procreate. Women never need to do this, no matter how the population is aligned.

This is common sense and I simply won’t hear anymore disagreement on this point.

Moved to MB.

Oh good lord is that all you males are? Sperm banks? That explains alot. Damn I should have gotten a mute one. Or even better a mute subservient one… I got ripped off! I call do overs! !!!