“ALL children, should they die, go to Heaven. They have not the reasoning power to make informed decisions.”
That statement by Rachel prompted this O. P. ----
Mercy kill your children to guaranty their heaven. It’s the right thing to do.
Christian parents are evil parents if they do not mercy kill their children and guarantee salvation. If Christian parents do not force their children onto the narrow path with death, they are immoral parents.
To not kill their children shows that Christians do not really love their children. It is throwing away the child’s chance for happiness in the vast majority of cases. It condemns most Christian children to hell.
Check the numbers Christians and promote the human sacrifice whose tradition you already follow. Ie. Jesus, your scapegoat. You owe it to your children to mercy kill them.
If they had killed my friend Kenny earlier in life, he would have stayed in heaven.
Right?
Of course so now apply that reality to your child and if you do not want him condemned then mercy kill him or her. Not to be a bean counter but if my sons were not already condemned, I would kill them if I was a good Christian. Good thing I am just a lowly Gnostic Christian.
Good parents will mercy kill their children before the little heathens can follow their evil God given natures.
Greatest I am, it’s a fun thing, isn’t it? Because according to Christian’s own beliefs it would be beneficial to kill their own children because they’ll end up in heaven, which is a better place than earth so you’re basically ensuring your children a better life. And killing loses all its negative connotations it has, it becomes a way to ascend a higher, better reality - to heaven. And god is good, right? So he’ll understand that you want to ensure the best possible future for your children and would have no problems with you either, so you’re going to heaven too.
Sooo… why doesn’t every Christian kill themselves? Because they’re lying to themselves. At least those crazy suicidal religious cults practice their beliefs. Christians are so full of shit that even they don’t believe in and act according to stuff they believe.
Also why I find it laughable that such a large majority of Christians take a pro-life stance on abortion.
What about being fruitful and multiplying? Doesn’t the idea of every parent killing off all their children kind of put a damper on the human race? Doesn’t it defy the very maxim of “be fruitful and multiply”? Does a good parent kill his/her children in order to guarantee those children’s entry into Heaven, or does a good parent nurture and promote the growth of the child until that child can reproduce him/herself and thereby continue the species (which is what God wants, isn’t it?)? And even after that point, the children have to stick around in order to raise their children and ensure an even further generation of children.
People can procreate in heaven too. This would basically just transfer human race from earth to heaven. People can actually be more fruitful in heaven since in heaven there would be no children or mothers dying on birth, no deformations, no diseases, no natural disasters, no murders etc. What better “nurturing and promoting growth” is there than ensuring an infinite life of happiness for your child?
It is strange and it just goes to show how little of their theology and traditional beliefs Christians actually think of or understand.
They have thrown logic, reason and morality out of a religion that once had it all when the Gnostic Christians were in it. Those qualities disappeared out of Christianity when they killed us and burned our scriptures. That will reverse I hope.
I hate to see the world lose potentially decent minds a stupid dogma.
We can only speculate as to what God wants. He is not here to tell us. I can’t see God caring about how many humans are around. Remember Noah?
I think he would want more good actions from live humans and more souls in heaven and killing the young insures the best end for them. As to reproducing, sure. Kill what you have and make more to kill for God. A nice plan all around and logically sound as long as we do not mind seeing Christians kill their babies.
Caring Christians will kill their children and insure the best end of heaven.
Yep. Christian beliefs have painted them into a corner where they have to do an immoral act to insure their higher duty to their children. That is what happens when you have a garbage theology and Church.
What the story of Noah tells us is that when humanity goes astray and enters into sin, God restarts the human race (or goes back to a previous point). It doesn’t mean He doesn’t care about the multiplicity of the human race.
I don’t think we can cherry pick here about what counts as speculation and what doesn’t. If God’s wish for us to “be fruitful and multiply” is speculative, so is the idea that he accept innocent children into Heaven. But I gathered you were speaking in the context of actual Christian beliefs, and those beliefs would concur with both ideas: that God wants us to be fruitful and multiply and that He accepts innocent children into Heaven.
If the goal is to get as many souls into Heaven as possible, then we have to have a balance. Killing off an entire generation while they’re young would certainly ensure that the most we can possibly get from that generation would enter Heaven (assuming that the older you get, the more susceptible you are to losing your innocence). But allowing each generation to grow and have children of their own might ensure that we have even more souls entering Heaven than we would by killing off just one generation while their young; we’d have to assume that the ongoing proliferation of generation after generation would go on indefinitely, and that out of each generation, a small handful would still be worthy of entering Heaven even if they die at a ripe old age. If this goes on indefinitely, then eventually some point will be reached when we have more souls in Heaven than we would by killing off just one generation.
Now, if the point wasn’t just getting a maximum number of souls into Heaven, but rather making the ratio of souls in Heaven to souls in Hell weighing more on the side of Heaven, then this wouldn’t work. Even though each generation would have a small handful of souls that would go to Heaven, the overwhelming bulk of them would go to Hell, and so every little bit that would be added to Heaven would be match by a huge chunk that would be added to Hell. If the ratio is what matters, I’ll stand behind you 100% (and kill my children if I were Christian ).
Would that make them sane, or would it entail that doing the right thing requires being insane?
The right thing under the circumstances–perhaps–but it could also be phrased as: God is a sadistic psychopath, and that human parents are forced to kill their children as a necessary evil.
Sacrifice has always been associated with testing men’s ultimate commitment. Did not Jesus’s sacrifice by God showed the key to ultimate belief? The last minute, though, he commuted the sentence, by sending the angel of mercy to avert the obvious. Jesus sacrifice was not prevented, because as He , Himself admitted, He was not of this world.
If out of this world, we could not sacrifice him at all could we. If of this world and able to be crucified, then he was just a mortal man like all of us.
Why bother thinking of him as special at all?
His theology certainly was not workable or moral. If it was, then his followers would be living it instead of doing basically the opposite.
The words were written when children often died. Infants and little kids are susceptible to disease. Fears for their souls had to be calmed. The argument about loving parents should kill their children is severely lacking and designed to just taunt.
No. That is not what I said. I said Christians are not acting as Christians say they should act and that much of what Jesus said would not be thought of as moral or workable today or even back then.
It was written to ridicule yes but if your follow the Christian dogma and traditions, killing their children is the best action for them as parents. The logic is sound in terms of a parents duty to seek the best end for their children.
I did not write their stupid dogma. I am just showing how a moral person who cares about his children would act.
You’re forgetting that if this life is worse then the afterlife, killing loses any negative connotations (unless it’s done in a way that it inflicts a lot of pain). Dying just becomes a way to ascend to a higher, better reality. Of course, such horseshit isn’t even taken seriously by the people who believe it (or, more accurately, claim to believe it).
So your objection is that it’s “severely lacking”? What’s lacking is an actual argument from your side, severely lacking, might I add.
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