youtube.com/watch?v=o8lsjfjgAA8
I personally thought it was touching.
Yikers! Fox just made Limbaugh look like the asshole clown that Rush has always been.
Fox did a lot more than that, of course. If he didn’t turn this issue around with that, I don’t see how it’s ever going to get turned around.
Thanks for posting that, dOOd.
When my mom was dying of Parkinsons, the topic of research and cures came up frequently in discussion.
But no matter how much my mom sufferred, she did not want her suffering to end at the expense of the lives of others.
She knew that a unique individual human being begins to live at the moment of conception, and that to kill that person to harvest that person’s stem cells, even if such could lead to a cure for her disease and an end to her suffering, was simply wrong.
That’s courage – more courage than Michael J. Fox has yet to come close to showing.
People get sick from degenerative diseases, such as Parkinsons, because of things they most certainly had control over and likely knew better about.
Unresolved neuropsychological damage from childhood, unhealthy diet, unnecessary stress, smoking, workaholism, alcohol abuse … the list goes on.
All of these are preventable damaging environmental factors that trigger so-called genetic degenerative diseases like Parkinsons.
Without the triggers, the disease never manifests.
An ounce of prevention is worth a pound of cure, or maybe even a ton of cure.
My mom knew that.
And when she failed to take preventative action, and she eventually experienced the triggered disease, she accepted the results of her lack of prevention effort, and there was no shortcut she was willing to take if it meant the Hitlerian Nazi-type experimental holocaustic death of other people was required to save her life.
Rush Limbaugh can be an asshole, and quite the hypocrite. He is the last one to talk about “medication” and “appropriate use and dosage”. 
And what Michael J. Fox decides to do with regard to what medicines he wants to take and how is none of Limbaugh’s business.
Nevertheless, this “controversy” is all a bunch of irrelevant media hyped garbage.
The real issue remains as I have presented it.
Thus, Michael J. Fox may be cute, and he may make a great and compelling poster boy.
But my mom and her courage makes Michael J. Fox look like the sad little coward he truly is.
Nevertheless, when my mom passed away, we made a donation in lieu of flowers to the Michael J. Fox foundation.
Hopefully, there are other people there like my mom who will not stop at deadly shortcuts, and will instead find other ways to obtain usable stem cells as necessary, other ways that do not involved the injury or murder of any newly conceived people, period.
I love you, Mom.
You remain the greatest example of courage in this matter that I can ever imagine.
And I miss you.
Yeah that was good; well said by McFly.
I disagree. I definitely think there are tons of degenerative diseases without known cause. I agree that there are many things that can cause them that we have control over, but genetic mutation isn’t one of them.
No, no courage at all for doing what he does. Especially, after all those years as a Hollywood high profile individual.
Even more courageous, the fact that he saw no need to lower himself to name calling, inflammatory language, or mockery to get his point across.
He just called it like any American should: If you’re for it, say it. If you’re not, say it. If a majority shows up on a side of the issue, then that is what constitutional law is for, as well as protecting the minority right of dissention.
Yeah, he a total coward. Pffft. He has more balls than any politician in government, or any bullshit artist with a story on the fucking internets.
youre mom is a sad little coward.
not that i really care one way or another about this topic… but if youre going to resort to name calling and insane assumptions you at the least deserve that.
Okay, folks - why don’t we try to keep the conversation somewhere near the original topic. Anything close will do. No one’s mom had to get into this, okay? Capeche?
Mike, Rush, the pols, the disease, the cause - have at it. Let’s just keep moms out of it.
I just can’t resist contributing…my mom is better than ALL of your Moms…bitches times ten.
Irrelevant with respect to the truth of reality.
Foolish guessing without obviously knowing much of anything about what you’re guessing about will only make you look like a … . 
Merely because infinity and eternity exist does not in any “all things are possible” way override the axiom of identity that makes the cat a cat and not a dog, that narrows things down to being what they truly are. 
You can imagine all kinds of irrelevant exceptions that would make the cat a dog in your mind.
But you would be wrong.
Those causes are known as neurogenic triggers.
Nearly all so-called “genetic” oriented degenerative disease – heart attack, stroke, high bloodpressure and on and on – are triggered into onset by neurogenic factors.
Remove the neurogenic factors as I previously presented, and the onset of the disease can be delayed and even prevented.
I have been told this by competent healthcare professionals, and what they’ve said matches what I have also read and been taught.
I understand the neuropsychology underpinnings of this reality.
I said nothing about genetic “mutation”.
Re-read for comprehension.
Otherwise you are just pretentiously foollishly guessing … again.
I like Fox’s comment:
I like Faust’s comment:
thanks, d00D,
I didn’t see the original interview, just the Limbaugh bits on CNN. Limbaugh isn’t an asshole. He is one giant fucking prick of an asshole. The ultra conservatives ought to really be proud.
It’s meaningless rhetoric designed to push his murderous stem-cell harvesting NAZI-type “experiment” approach.
Trying to “harmoniously” unite people for a diabolically horrific reason is evil.
I don’t.
My germane anecdote about my mom was most apropos to the topic at hand.
What was wrong was Cba’s blatantly incendiary remark that was designed to insult another member of the forum.
Rather than sheepishly restrict appropriate topic by saying “okay, everyone, let’s all play nice within the following censorship rules”, better would have been to delete Cba’s post.
Yeah, let’s get off mamas. I just got off yo mama! 
What’s that from, White Man Can’t Jump, I think?
Everyone just stop posting.
ben, shut down ILP, life as we know it, has been irrevocably changed.
JH has everything figured out, and none can compare, no further discourse is ever required.
not worthy, not worthyI’m not worthy**
I’m for stem cell research, but I feel mixed about adds exploiting some’s disability, essentially invoking with sleaze people’s empathy and votes.
I am curious as to what kind of “exploitation” you think it is, when people with degenerative diseases, who are suffering, are asking for the government to fund a way to get them cured…
It sounds like a fellow human being asking for help. If that doesn’t invoke empathy in you I’d be afraid.
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d0rkyd00d… thank you so much for posting this. “Touching” is the least that could be said about it. I almost cried watching this interview for two reasons.
One that I really like Micheal J. Fox not just for his contributions to motion picture entertainment but as a person as well and it pains me to see him suffering like this; it pains me because I can’t imagine living in a condition where I would not have full control of my own body.
Second, his rebuttal, as Mastriani has so eloquently elated, is the stuff of heroes. It’s easy to be a simple man… a simple man can counter with ad hominem attacks… a simple man can make bullshit false claims about events and people… a simple man can be defeated. A hero though is something else entirely. A hero does not use the tactics of a man, because a hero is above those tactics… a hero ascends as the Nietzschean Overman to represent a higher morality, a purer form of humanity… a hero cannot be defeated…
There are no words that Limbaugh could ever be able to summon to counter the rebuttal that Fox has imposed. Limbaugh has been soundly defeated, he is a fool for thinking that he is a better man than Fox. He is a fool for thinking that Fox is a man… He is a fool for underestimating the ineffable greatness of a truly great man… a hero.
I only wish I could tell Limbaugh to his face what Penn Jillette says to this asshole. I love how he says it… perfectly the best way to say it…
Well he intentionally didn’t take his medicine so that he would jerk around like that, let that be known. It just strikes me as a little unfair to republicans that democrats use such a method. I detest all use of campaign tactics like this, it’s just not good politics when people’s emotions are played upon in such a blunt manner.
I’ve always thought M.J. Fox was a shitty actor, not that being shitty at your job means you deserve a horrible disease. And while I realize Parkinson is awful, I really don’t care much about it; yeah, it would be great to cure it but it pales next to the top ten killer diseases. But nowadays all diseases are cause celebres, assigned research dollars based on who has the most bankable victim.