Then they are just like antifa. They are getting funding, they are organized, there is structure and supply. Wray was wrong about 2 things out of the three. They do have a membership list and structure.
Your problem is that you are trying to conflate this very much funded and organized movement with the past’s, but there is also a good question here: Antifa is better defined as an ideology?
Really? So where is the line between an ideology and a formal organisation?
Do they need to get into government before they are recognized as a formal group?
Cause seemingly, funding, organizing, having their own symbols, flags, colors and the rest of the schebang is not enough to some.
And by eastern europe you mean ukraine?
Cause thats about the only place in the entirety of europe where nazi groups are tolerated going around killing people.
Furthermore in this context your question makes even less sense.
So now we are talking about some random ideological groups scattered along the entire continent.
And your question is whether or not its possible for them to exist without murder?
The answer is yes.
There is basically no country where antifa sprang up as a reaction to the far right.
Or if i wanted to be at least somewhat kind to that sentence, i would say that they sprang up and labeled everyone and everything nazi that didnt submit to them. That was also the basis of the meme i posted on top.
A group that cemented the idea that its okay to punch nazis, and when asked who the nazis are they always ended up with the realization that its every and anyone who disagrees with their fcking violent, degenerate asses.
I really dont want to ridicule your argument or anything, but i would like you to literally explain to me what a blog post of 40 supposedly far right leaning people is meant to prove to me.
Especially in a country where just between 2021 and 2023 you had nearly 5000 sexual related crimes done by migrants.
And what if i start to shoot back handfuls of sexual offenders from the left?
Mike Hill, Simon Danczuk, Kelvin Hopkins, Neil Coyle, Paul Grady, Jordan Linden, Douglas Slade, Christopher Skeaping, etc etc etc
Will you now think that your country’s left is rampaging around committing sexual violations too?
I absolutely can ask you this question because apparently you are living in the UK and are drinking and breathing bs propaganda 24/7/365 about the right.
Is it very hard for you to believe that the f-ing clown world you are living in is a hellscape and that other countries dont look even remotely like it?
For starters my country never sold out it’s citizens to roaming hordes of child groomers and murderers to the point they had to ban butter knives off of the f-ing streets. So there is no roaming bands of nazis OR roaming bands of antifa.
This entire far left/far right polarization exists only in countries where the government sold out it’s people, and you better believe that they ARE FULLY PLAYING INTO IT.
I will tell you this much: If you are living in the UK you have no concept about normalcy or any other place in the world.
Thats a simple fact.
Not one lick of a fuck of an idea.
Because you are living in a country that is widely considered to be a fallout series sitcom.
But!
At least now i understand where you are coming from.
Your disposition and the things you believe make a LOT more sense this way.
They might even hold a lot of justification and truth in the UK.
Cause they didnt. Its as simple as that.
Who tf do you think paraded around with swastikas in 2000 or 2010 or for that matter even in 2020 and were considered to be sane, socially acceptable or as little as “having a point”?
For the better part you can go anywhere on the internet where swastikas are flying from 4chan to whatever hell hole other, and you will find that they are STILL just memes, jokes and shitposting.
But lets just turn this around: What sources of credible and accepted right wing extremism do you know about that existed before 2015-20 and the globalist and migration bs?
Let me warn you: Its gonna be a very short list.
I will now show you what kind of sh-t you are reading. Here is what according to you a rubber hammer can do:
Try detaching from the d of far left media sources my dude cause everything you just copy pasted was a lie. The rubber hammer was a lie. The far right was a lie. The 1 victim was a lie.
In reality there are over 20 victims, they maced people and beat them with everything from leaded batons to crowbars.
I will tell you only this: You are being fed a f-ing narrative.
I aint gonna tell you to believe me, or believe the right or anyone. But i gonna tell you that you should probably start assuming that everyone is lying to you and if you want to inform yourself, you have to do it on your own.
Great! Which of these are related to your definition of Nazi Germany?
No whataboutery. Its a categorical questioning of what your far right scare is based on.
And its a mix of living in a hellhole of a country and having only propaganda as news sources.
What was your point here?
Great. I agree with this sentiment wholeheartedly too.