That’s not a strawman @futureone, it’s an elaboration. I’m not attempting to weaken your argument by using generalisation, supposition or misplaced association, so it’s not a strawman.
And yes, the chimp sounds cool, I’ve already thought of a name for him, we’ll be good friends.
its a strawman and you are trying to weaken the point of my argument, my argument is that animals are obviously dumber than humans. Obviously a human native of the jungle would be a better survival guide than a fucking chimp…
You’ve used another strawman, so this is a perfect time to try to explain how that works:
That’s your statement. I don’t refute it, @futureone, because it doesn’t conflict with a single thing I said. To jog your memory, here’s what I actually said:
You, correct me if I’m wrong, are not a “human native of the jungle”. But you are human, and you claim to be smarter than a chimp under any circumstances, I dispute that, and say, give me the chimp. I’m not implying that you personally are stupid, I’m saying that “intelligence” is subjective to environment, and situation, and in that situation, a chimp is “smarter” than many humans who might consider themselves smarter in, for example, an urban environment.
Intelligence is only of value if it can be applied directly to the surrounding environment. A deep understanding of quantum mechanics would, under those circumstances, be absolutely useless.
I’ve stopped burning the straw now, I’m feeding it to the horses instead..
Won’t admit defeat will you.
I will repeat myself again. Repetition is key to learning.
A chimp is obviously dumber than a human. A native human that lives in a jungle is going to be a better survival guide than a chimp… A native human that lives in a jungle is going to be a better survival guide than a chimp…
A chimp has a brain trained on a jungle… obviously its going to be a better jungle guide than a city slicker that hasn’t been trained in the jungle… If you train GPT3 on a narrow subject its gonna know more about the subject than a GPT4 that hasn’t been giving training on the subject… Does that mean GPT3 is smarter than GPT4??
And you what? Pick a chimp of all things… probably the smartest animal on the planet next to humans? The animal closest to humans and is human-like? To prove that animals aren’t dumb and animals are smarter than humans? What the fuck…
No. I’m not putting that much effort into you again. You might be able to read, but being able to think and understand is something that you obviously struggle with. I don’t need to provide further argument, I would simply refer you back to what has already been written and clearly expressed.
When losing the argument you go into NPD mode.. I’m sure you’ll fit in here well with all the other loons…
Even your counter statement is a strawman… my original statement was “animals are more dumb than humans”, not “animals are dumb”… you NPD bitch
Allow me to write the following.
Many US ppl come to Italy to enjoy the many proofs of the past — real one — that accurately describe things not very much easy to catch but very powerful to feel amid food wine and trivial adventures, let’s put them in three points:
1 the Florentian Based DOLCE STIL NOVO twisted the woman from the “hole" to be abuse” in a DAME/Goddess to be seduced with deeds, even brutal deeds,
2 in the same way we had the Chivalry Cycles and those assets were the only ORAL narratives for the peasants even in the deep recesses of Europe to discover the twist expressed in point 1 ( the knights LOVE and what the Brits called after centuries “Romanticism” …)
3 it is a fact that putting above a pillar the woman the Borghi society became the Bourgeois able to do any crafts ( from leather clothes to weapons ) …to exercise skills that were not in the hand of the damn nobility of europe.
The relics and traces of a society ( the italian one of the middle age and so on ) that builded itself without cybernetics but with skills transfered in a domain built up over two pillars christiandome and those narratives I mentioned before is crucial to restart an image of man and woman that can resist to the abominations of the history and the pestilence of intellectual speculations that are essentially provoked by a contrived scheme to define us all beasts in order simply to eat each other … when we are not at all that way. The question where you where born is EVERYTHING.
Don’t mix borghese culture with capitalism, they were not capitalists but people from the BORGHI and the only way to eat was not to eat each other but to do things together and without any kind of AGENDAs. Every 3 kmters you can have in Italy blatant proof of all that.
Well that’s certainly cleared things up.
That’s all recent history.
Real human nature you want to look at Native Americans, ancient greeks, pre-greek civilizations.
Humans are very similar to chimps, very similar. They crave wars and conflicts. Weren’t the Native Americans all warring with each other long before the white man came here? Weren’t all the white men always warring with other white men, on the Old World continents as well?
I believe humanity has the genetic capacity to be bonobos instead of chimps, but we are nowhere even near that. They aren’t even trying to be bonobos. They don’t even know what bonobo is. Bonobo isn’t pacifism. Bonobo is a lot of sex and a lot of violence. But non-lethal violence, not wars.
the massacre of each other was constant brutal and the reason why even in Africa the evolution we had in “europe” was neither thinkable… in the Prussian university of engineer the first “transistor” appeared far before the official date of the born of that component and was big as a room. The natural state society is barbaric orgiastic and panic … the land of Britain once the Romans invaders went out, it got back to the iron age in few years. and to make a long story short was a volcano erupting TUFO that propelled the Rome foundation…giving the material to create bricks. but to do all those “stuffs” a civilization must …”fuck” “work” “love” and have fun even with “gods” .. the theater actions and the intermingling among humans and super humans are a constant of the south med civilization like the greek one… until now we have such in sicily: Stagione 2026 | INDA | Istituto Nazionale Dramma Antico | Fondazione ONLUS | Siracusa they do the same tragedies in the same places, sadly they stopped to do “wrestling/gladiators” O_0.
The majority of feminists and suffragettes were full blown Marxists. They were not lower class women, but usually of the elite class. Academics, poets, writers, political agitators. Most of the leading women were Jewish. This is true not only of the later waves, but especially of the early waves of feminist revolution.
They hated men, the family, and nations. Their goal, consistent with the French and Bolshevik Revolutions, was to dismantle Western Christendom. This is incredibly important today when evaluating the alleged value of women’s suffrage or the 19th Amendment.
They were unstable mentally, often suicidal, sexually degenerate, and prone to extreme violence. Many of the British suffragettes, for example, were terrorists, arsonists, and criminals. Betty Friedan beat her husband and had a hot, uncontrolled temper.
“Feminist activists today fit the same pattern as their forebears. They are still middle-class, opinionated, well educated, young—and damaged—women. They are openly defiant and utterly inaccessible to reason because they are brainwashed in the ideological cult of feminism.”
Like their forbearers, feminists today prey on young, white, affluent, college-educated women. Of them Orwell was correct:
“It was always the women, and above all the young ones, who were the most bigoted adherents of the Party, the swallowers of slogans, the amateur spies and nosers-out of unorthodoxy.”
Guess what is the primary source of nihilism in the west?