how did you come up with those statistics?
and what does child worship have to do with anything?
What statistics? As I said a guess, about ages. It doesn’t matter. The topic was ancestor worship… a past-looking kind of reverence absent transcending beings. That’s what I thought turtle meant by “mommy/daddy”. I mentioned the converse of that… a forward looking future worship… child worship as per the analogy/metaphor… kind of like Nietzsche’s ubermensch… Clear?
Erm, I am a dummy…
Well, perhaps i am the dummy and didn’t realize what she meant i didn’t get that from her thread.
arc and river-----what are you saying here…
turtle------i might have mistaken what you were saying in your first post…i thought that when you said you were worshiping “mommy and daddy”, sun and electricity and polytheism, that you were referring to non-transcendent gods, such as in ancestor worship.
a “transcendent” god is any god that is outside the universe, or beyond it somehow…not part of the “stuff” that makes up the physical world…
some people don’t believe in transcendent gods, but their lack of faith doesn’t translate to a lack of worshiping this or that…the worship gets placed on things from their past, or things to be in their future…those are common types…
e.g., some people worship their ancestors…or other things from the past…
e.g., some people worship their future…like the potentialities for people, or the prospects for their children, or futuristic utopias…
i did not mean to extrapolate so far away from what you might have said, if that is not what you were saying…
for the record, i also guessed at your ages…but that was something of a tangent perhaps.
i guess that you were both around 50 years old…that was for the simple fact that most people live to be between 0 and 100 years old, and i wanted to make a guess that was likely to be as close as possible…so i guessed roughly the closest point to each end…no offense intended at all.
i think i have lost what arc was saying…
Which is perhaps a Little different from saying ‘I am a polytheist’. The latter entails certain beliefs about the existence of gods. the former does not. With the statement I Believe in polytheism, one might simply be noting the worship, one’s own, others. Sort of like, look I find myself worshipping multiple entities. I have no idea if I Believe or should, but there it is. Maybe on the Surface one does not worship mummy, but underneath, driving the submarine, we find worshipping-animals in the self. We find them in the process of treating things (seen and not) like a sacred mother. We find ourselves or we find others doing this. This is prior to getting into any epistemological issues, and should one Believe.
But then this is likely a bad interpretation since you previously say ‘you are going to worship the electricity god’
which is also an interesting wording. It implies that you don’t now but you have an intention to do this. it almost sounds like a rebellion.
And can one really plan to worship something? I mean beyond the ‘I will bow down Before the relay station gates’, but in the sense of having reverence and implicitly believing in this electricity god.
So I like this OP because it writes about beliefs in unusual ways. Finding one Believes rather than justifying one’s Believes or working them out. Then also planning to Believe.
Most people keep their cards very Close to their CHESTs and pretend it is all very rational. I like this OP. Or perhaps it is the fugue state elicited by my incorrect interpretations of it that I like.
flows like a river…
No offense taken but with that kind of logic, couldn’t you say then that most everyone in here could be around 50 years old?
Think about it…unless you can explain your logic in a way that would shed more light on it for me. By the way, you are wrong. 
Don’t worry about that. I find that to be true with many people where I am concerned and I’m not so sure that that bothers me at all. I find it kind of interesting.
I just asked out of general curiosity. But yea, that’s the thing about guesses… with more logic to them they’d start to look like hypotheses.
I’ve heard that people get more “conservative” as the age----in the vague (non-political) sense that they prefer things how they used to be, somehow. If that’s true, then as you get older you tend to have more reverence for the past. You would fit somewhere along the line of more toward ancestor worship. Whereas, when you are young, the future holds everything worth revering. (“I can’t wait to get independence, start my career, go to school, move away, find myself, etc”). I can’t put my finger on it, but something seems oddly backwards about that. Huge generalization though. Probably wrong.
I stopped using those terms at age 4, as soon as I knew it was sissy.
bollocks.
flowing river…
I’m not so sure that what you say is true. People are individuals river so that might hold true for many but not for all…each case is different. Some get more conservative with age perhaps depending on how wild they were - and some as they age, become more wild. they come to realize how much life they may have wasted.
It’s possible that some as they get older have more reverence for the past because they know that it has escaped them and they can never ever ever get it back. But i wouldn’t so much use the word reverence as respect in like seeing it as it is or was and learning from it. i suppose that as one realizes they have less time, they will try to hold onto the past. but i think that the better deal is simply to live the moment, thrive on it. if someone who is older or elderly reverences the past too much they will see their life slipping away because that is where they will be living. And i don’t think that’s reverencing anything just being afraid to let go of something you really can’t get back.
Ancestral worship>? i suppose this is what all that wanting to find one’s ancestors is all about. But i tend to think its really about wanting to find one’s own roots and meaning. After a certain age, i think one might let go of that since its possible they might have already become rooted in something and have their own sense of spiritual identiy and connectedness. perhaps a lot of it has to do with feeling so separate isolated and disconnected in this world so we the people need to find out where we belong and who we belong to. But i may be wrong…this is all just my perspective.
keep flowing and look for me under a tree…those two things you see as you go by are my feet. thank you for cooling them.
wait arc and von and hc----I am jealous…where do I fit in…where are my feet…where are my testicles…think of me…
poor little reptile…actually this mommy and daddy thing went deeper…I thank all the wonderful ancestors of the world that have helped making my life better…they have sacrificed their lives for us…I will worship them before any obtuse sky-daddy god…