When it comes to scamming scammers, for example, making a business of selling counterfeit money and stolen credit cards, but actually you wouldn’t sell anything, just take the money of the ones who tried to buy these kind of goods. Is it in your opinion immoral?
Would it teach scammers the pain that comes with being scammed?
Or would it teach them that scamming is normal and common… maybe somewhat acceptable?
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Yes..
Don’t take it & keep it. And don’t take it w/o them knowing it’s going back to the ones they scammed.
This epitomises how the dark side gets you.
A) Be a scammer
or
B) Be a scammer that scams scammers …
By vice or virtue, you will b approached by the dark side. Chastity comes into play: by striving to avoid blatant (A) and doubtful (B) things
Is it not written, a Hobbit was chosen to bear Sauron’s ring to the place of destruction because he was unambitious (as Hobbits are) yet mindful (Frodo specifically).
Had Gandalf or Galadriel taken it they would have meant well, but become the next dark lord.
that ring didn’t belong to anybody that was scammed out of it by the way
having the abilities of the ring and not using it for good is just as bad as not destroying it in the first place
The point is:
The ring is entirely evil. Just as scams are thoroughly bad. Scamming the scammer is not an option. Playing around with the ring, for the Greater Good, is likewise a bad idea. Boromir had this Greater Good in mind when he tried to seize it off Frodo.
IQ decreases with age and l honestly cannot unknot these double negatives. Oh to be 17 again.
It’s not scamming. You can straight up take “their” money and be completely justified.
The scammer? Frodo wasn’t a scammer.
Facepalm.
That’s the problem with IQ, like a camera sensor’s pixel count, versus the quality of those pixels, IQ can be eclipsed by Wisdom.
I’m not even that wise. You clearly have a high IQ but don’t get the basic statement of mine:
Fraud is bad. Defrauding the fraudster for the greater good, is shaky ground.
A) Fraud is an attempt at vice.
B) Defrauding the fraudster is an attempt at virtue.
The dark side will try to get you via vice (A) and virtue (B).
Defrauding the fraudster (B) might lead to a good result but it’s better not to run the gauntlet. That is how chastity and moderation work.
Chasity = not wanting to do bad or doubtful things (B)
Moderation = being mindful enough to judge when you can do (B), but this is dangerous, hence moderation is key.
Chastity = Being unambitious
Moderation = Wisdom, Mindfulness i.e. knowing how far to take ambition if you do run the gauntlet
In most people’s cases, it’s better not to scam the scammer.
Hobits are unambitious, which is what l mean by “chaste” in this case, and you can see Frodo is the more “mindful” one, that would be “moderation” per what l wrote:
This is why Boromir would have messed up if he had seized the Ring, look at him, and imagine him+Ring 1,000 years down the line:
To clinch it, here’s Gandalf explaining the Ring is absolutely Evil:
Galadriel agrees:
I’m not saying Sauron’s Ring is a telephone scam, l’m taking the Ring and telephone scams as a cipher for the same thing: Vice.
Peace 
Yes, scamming scammers is moral and not scamming them is immoral. But maybe not such a good idea as you could then get arrested too, better just report the scammers to the authorities.
Skimming the skimmers.
Actually though if you promise counterfeit money or stolen credit cards and don’t deliver, you might get a shotgun to the face.
But I invite you to try and post the results here.
You should maybe also know that it is, nevertheless, a popular scamming avenue among scammers.
I don’t think you should do a telephone scam. But if it’s a vice to take money from someone that stole it, and return it to the one they stole it from, then there can be no such thing as virtue.
Oversimplification. That’s like calling a nuclear meltdown “unrequested fission surplus”, the OP is considering using a method, an illegal method.
Would they even know the victims? Would the police be an alternative? Would they, as one remarked, get a gun in their face? You could encourage the OP and see
*Sanitisation would be a better word for your approach. Anyhow: You’re a fan of street justice. I guess if one is not themselves burning in the street outside then ok …
I don’t know if you’re talking to me, but when the state takes justice and conflict resolution away from the individual/community wronged, it’s doing too much.
According to certain thieves, certain methods are fraud based on the brutely-forced fact that they defined them as such. As if they held the final word on definitions.
There are better definitions. Consider their definitions the language of a foreign invader.
…more like treasonous invaders of their own countries…