Movie Ideas

Ichthus77 · November 5, 2022, 10:51pm

nuther movie idea
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HumAnIze · November 9, 2022, 9:42pm

The Predator from 2018. Great movie. Surprisingly funny for an action sci-fi.

Ichthus77 · November 10, 2022, 5:21am

Thanks. I don’t think I’ve ever seen it. Goin on the watchlist.

HumAnIze · November 12, 2022, 9:25am

Yep it’s great. If you like old school sci-fi check out Escape from LA (sequel) and Escape from New York (first one) if you haven’t seen those already. Obviously classics like Terminator, Blade Runner (the new one is great too), Total Recall, They Live, Aliens, Back to the Future… all great.

Ichthus77 · November 12, 2022, 11:57am

I love sci-fi but I’m kind of picky about it. I saw that first movie you recommended the other day and it was good. There was a lot going on with it that I liked. Kept my attention. Other sci-fi movies make me zone out. I can usually tell in the first five minutes of a movie if it’s gonna be something I can sit through. If it doesn’t explore ideas/relationships in a certain way and instead it’s just “the weird” or “the gross” or “the violent” or whatevs… yawn.

HumAnIze · November 12, 2022, 12:55pm

You’re probably a zoomer right? Need to have them constantly put flashy action things into every scene in order for it to keep your attention? Scene cuts that are less frequent than once a second makes the movie seem boring to you, doesn’t it?

Ichthus77 · November 12, 2022, 1:41pm

No, if it’s an action flick or scene that moves too fast, I zone/tune out & lose the plot. If it kept my interest otherwise, I may have to rewatch what I missed one or several times.

Ichthus77 · November 13, 2022, 10:33pm

currently watching “see you yesterday“ on Netflix. Michael J Fox is in it. “Great Scott!”

Ichthus77 · November 15, 2022, 2:12pm

I wrote these down in 2008. I believe it was détrop who intro’d me to dialectic, but I hadn’t heard of Hegelian recognition or its precursor (or… have no memory of having heard of it…). I found this just now looking for the embedded movie idea—but I’ll give you the whole shebang. Welcome to my psyche. Some might predate 2008, but is no later than. Posting as-is.

4 weird dreams I had a while back that sort of relate to eachother…

During a nightmare (the details of which I don’t recall) a female voice coaxed me out of the dream by repeating “wake up… wake up… wake up…” in a steady “I’m concerned about you but I’m not freaked out” tone, until I woke up. So, it’s like part of me was in a nightmare totally freaking out, and another part of me that was more awake than the dreaming part of me… woke me up. Unless, of course, the one telling me to wake up… wasn’t actually me (I can’t remember now if it felt like me or not). Or… maybe a fully conscious self is a combination (dialectic?) of those two parts of me?

This dream felt real. I’ve had dreams where I didn’t know I was dreaming – but this dream was different. It was like the image was burned into my actual eyes, so much so that it hurt my eyes, like I was staring too hard. I was staring at my chihuahua, because I was so mad at her. She was telling me I was dreaming, when I was absolutely positive I was awake. I was demanding that she prove I was dreaming – prove it by waking me up. I was yelling, “If I’m dreaming, then wake me up! Wake me up! Wake me up or shut up!” because she just kept insisting I was dreaming. It didn’t occur to me until I was awake (instantly), that my dog wouldn’t be talking to me unless I were sleeping. I think my dog was the part of me that knew I was dreaming (or it wasn’t a part of me at all). Why I (or an angel, or God?) took on the form of my chihuahua… now, that may forever be shrouded in mystery.

I was praying to God to make my dreaming self wake up. I had a hunch that I/she was dreaming because I/she was starting to freak out because a baby was talking like an adult. I had had dreams of babies talking like adults before, and I guess I had learned to recognize such dreams as just that – dreams. It was like the dream kept going, and there was two of me – one in the dream… and one observing myself in the dream, praying for God to make that one wake up. It worked.

My husband’s voice called my name as if to get my attention, but not from within my dream… more like from outside my dream. It wasn’t a nightmare… I was talking to a friend I hadn’t seen in years. His voice sounded like it originated from outside my head, but when I woke up to find out what he needed – he was asleep. So in this dream, the part of me that knew I was dreaming (or an angel, or God) took on the form of my husband (in voice).

So, I’m thinking… if it wasn’t an angel or God that woke me up… then maybe the dreaming part of me, that isn’t aware it is dreaming… that’s the thesis… and the part of me that knows I’m dreaming, but can’t do anything about it when separate from the thesis… that’s the antithesis… and the bringing of those two parts together… that’s the synthesis… that’s the conscious self who both acts (will) and knows (directs will). Without either aspect, there is no ‘awake’ self… only an incomplete aspect of self. I’m not sure if that makes any sense; if something is missing that would better explain it. Are you familiar with the dialectic? If not, nevermind.

I was witnessing a scene similar to a Lord of the Rings movie, but the monster reminded me of Malbus’ demon avatar (did you ever know Malbus?), and he was on some sort of tower in this valley, and the movie camera was sweeping through the valley (like a bird) to give an idea of the land the demon lived in (ahead there was a forest, I don’t know what was on the sides or behind me, but I got the impression of mountains). It (the camera, the bird) approached from behind me and took me with it, approaching the demon from behind, and as it got closer to him, I started to freak out more and more. The demon was mocking me for being there, like I was getting what I asked for. The woman’s voice was waking me up with “Listen… Listen… Listen…”

On a lighter note – I’ve had other funny, or just good-mood dreams. In one, there are three older women putting on tights and laughing about it. One, like Olivia Duchachis (I think is her name, prob’ly spelled it wrong), was stuffing her tights to make her legs look really flabby. Male voices provided the soundtrack music, acapella (sp?) – they would sing the line in high-pitched voices, then in low, deep voices – “The queens of the party… the queens of the party…” over and over. I woke up and started cracking up laughing. Another good-mood dream was that on this last 4th of July, I woke up with patriotic music in my head before it even occured to me that it was Independence Day.

On that same day, the previous year, I was drifting off to sleep in the afternoon when I saw (in my mind only) a sunset including a rainbow that was half-covered in darkness, and the words “I promise” were repeated three times in my mind, preventing me from dozing off any further. When we were leaving home to go see the fireworks, I was in a terrible mood, and I noticed the sunset, and across from it, on the other side of the sky, was a very dark cloud with a rainbow. In my dream they were all together, but in real life they were on two different sides of the sky. It only rained a little bit… the fireworks went off as usual. It brightened my mood to see the beautiful sunset across from the dark cloud with the rainbow, and I apologized to my husband for my mood. Do you ever have weird dreams like that?

One time, while awake, during monsoons, it was raining everywhere but on my property – it was very, very weird. I’ve also seen a rainbow in the moonlight, which looks like a platinum rainbow. Both of those things happened the summer before God made Himself unavoidably obvious to me.

A few nights ago or so I had this most colorful dream.

I was disecting a sort of seashell. On the inside of it, it looked more like chrystal (sp?) – a type of rock that is very beautiful and multi-colored on the inside.

For some reason I was able to disect it from an inside view.

The explanation for the layers of color was that the animal living in the sea shell (though I didn’t have a single thought of this animal, but who else would do the digesting? – so I mention it in this post) would digest beautifully colored sea fish and regurgitate some of it back out into the ocean water, and like the drippings in a cave, the regurgitated fish would accumulate into stalactites and stalagmites that would come together to form the inner lining of the sea shell.

The sea shell was taken apart (in half), and you could see that the stalactites and stalagmites had been interlocked, and then it was put back together again. It was through the spaces of them that the regurgitate was sifted out into the ocean water, though I couldn’t see any spaces.

But the most interesting part of it was the beautiful coloration and how beautifully and perfectly they fit together. It puzzled me so much that I never knew that about sea shells… 'til I woke up, and it all made sense why I never knew that.

Reminded me of oysters and pearls, but in my opinion those shells and pearls are pretty plain. In my dream, it was the inner lining of the shell that was so cool.

I woke up (in my dream) not knowing what I had done the night before, not as a result of drinking too much or anything. I phoned a friend who informed me it was all over the news… everyone woke up not knowing what they had done the night before. I took a mass transit ride (above ground, on rails, but not a train) and everyone on it was uneasy over this wide-spread amnesia of sorts. There was more to the dream, but I didn’t write it down, so I don’t remember the details.

It would make a cool movie. Two reactions could be that the faithful flock together and the skeptical seek a scientific explanation – perhaps it was a rapidly spreading virus? The news media could ponder whether or not it will happen again and how to prepare for it, if possible… or if perhaps such a happening has occured before, but went unnoticed.

The only problem is… what about the people who were awake the whole time? lol so… guess it wouldn’t work… unless (gasp!) they all woke up in the morning, not knowing how they fell asleep! Egads! (whatever that means!)

Ichthus77 · December 4, 2022, 2:51pm

Ichthus77:

October 27:

Rough draft of a manual within a fictional novel/movie called Shifters.

The way you could potentially live forever in a body (without Resurrection) is to clone yourself (or pick any new body who is kept unconscious without atrophy until aged appropriately) and connect your nonlocal consciousness from an old body/brain to a new one (avatar).

If it had the memories of the old body/brain and those couldn’t be erased (assuming certain kinds of memories can be passed genetically or acquired unconsciously), you’d have to ignore memories when automatically triggered, or assimilate them as belonging to an old version that no longer applies.

If the brain’s consciousness couldn’t be booted out or made compliant to share headspace, you either have to stay below awareness, or there will be a battle of wills over who is in control of the body (including mental presence)—you are not guaranteed to win. Before you make the shift to your new home permanent, you’d need to have some practice going back and forth between old & new headspaces, and some certainty you wouldn’t be eventually rejected as a new host or co-host.

Just because a consciousness is compliant initially does not mean it will remain so. True for the original host and every new one (if more than one). But if they gain compliance after you’ve made the shift permanent, you may have no way of contacting whoever can reverse it.

If they are good at ignoring you… of cutting off your access whenever your presence comes into awareness… what kind of life are you going to have? A silent spectator of one reality show. If you did not have perfect control of your thoughts before the shift, you certainly won’t after. If your thoughts are too different from the original host, you will be discovered. And if they are too similar and your will is not stronger… you will lose your identity. You’ll still be you, but indistinguishable. A copy. A body twin at least knows they are a different person. You will be like a cohost with Alzheimer’s.

Whoever allows this sort of technology has no ethics, so aren’t going to advise against encouraging suicide in the case of shifter’s remorse. The only way to potentially resolve a botched shift is for the shifter to go back to the drawing board and Golden Rule their way out of it.

An alternative is to not cut off outside contact, but it would require mental strength that can multitask between the overlapping phenomenon between minds while remaining hidden. Not likely to maintain very long except in old married couples whose phenomenon are very similar… not the most exciting reality show… or conducive to longevity.

Brain tourism/voyeurism … don’t go there. It’s worse than arranged marriage.

Some in psychology posit that if the original host is a practitioner, and invites a client to share consciousness to train them on controlling thoughts, there could be some therapeutic benefit to temporary sharing. However, there are other less intrusive treatment methods, and it could easily turn into a violation of professional ethics on a more serious level than those sanctioning against sexual relationships, especially with unstable patients.

There is only one mind capable of handling that level of responsibility. For all other minds the practice should be considered a grave violation.

Jan 24, 2022 Plot Twist

What if “they will be like the angels in heaven” means you share head space (mind) with anyone you were ever married to (legally or not). How many people you have in your head would depend on how many people they were married to (legally or not) as well. It would keep branching out to include the entire “family tree” so to speak. If a thought can constitute adultery, perhaps the thought would need to be mutual in order to result in mental marriage, or mental marriage would be a real-seeming delusion … a shared delusion wherever there was consent.

If that is the case, you better make sure you actually love the one(s) you’re/they’re with, and they love the one(s) you’re/they’re with, or… there is legit going to be some weeping and gnashing of teeth for all eternity. The eternal “share this t-shirt” consequence…but it’s a skull.

(Or perhaps there is a way to repent even after all is reconciled. But why wait?)

Just spit-ballin. Also just kidding. There will be no marriage in heaven (in hell, perhaps, and some are already living it). The sort of friendship, tension, and bliss that happens in heaven will make marriage vestigial, defunct, obsolete, surpassed, overcome—a tutor, like the law. Agape in concert with the vine. Freed.

Still/so. Choose your mate(s) wisely.

Jan 22, 2022

hypothetically if you became stuck inside of a skull with someone else you would want them to be someone who respects the golden rule so that you could still exist equally. You would handle things this way together: Examine/test every thought. Hold on to the good. Spit out the rest. Repeat. Like a potato sack race where your inside legs become one shared leg.

Jan 18, 2022

Simple: If we don’t want God to go to war with our gods, we need to get rid of them and put him (back) in the rightful place in our hearts/minds/souls (linked to brains, yes).

If you want to review the rules of engagement for that war (and deescalate if not too late; see Jonah) see Exodus and Revelation, and look around and see where we’re (ya think?) at. Use a study Bible and follow all of the references.

Call me crazy.

Nov 17, 2021 Clarification on Arranged Marriage

I would just like to recognize the phenomenon of prearranged marriage. How do you find a mate without the whole lust process of dating?

A prearranged marriage is the only solution, unless you set up some signs God can show you. Piece of advice. Don’t tell your jackass friends those signs or they are royally going to mess with you. That’s what friends do.

I can see why some cultures would start that young, just as you can see how in our culture girls and boys are jumping the gun these days. It isn’t a “just these days” thing, but all of us old people know how monumental the choice is, and we don’t want our beloved youngns to act on what comes naturally until their brain can make informed choices.

So in some cultures we make those choices for them in a prearranged marriage when we get the feeling that if we don’t make the choice, they’re going to make a terrible one.

However, in a free society that needs to be part of a conversation between the child and the parent so that if the child isn’t ready, the parent does not initiate a prearrangement. And both parties of the arrangement have to be agreeable to it of their own free will.

And they should be close in age or maturity level. It should be a good match and not one that would put either one of them at a disadvantage. And perhaps the community could take part in deciding if it is a good match. Those cultures that all decide to have sex with the female before she gets married… There will be consequences. Already were… already are… and will continue to be.

September 2, 2022:

Those who are just finding out they are sharing thoughts with other actual people are beginning to hypothesize how their thoughts became entangled. So far, the possibilities are:

Scientists figure out how to extend the life of nonlocal consciousness (without the real Resurrection) by attaching it to a new/used/cloned brain/body using quantum computing.

Scientists similarly figure out how to link all minds like a network (hive) via the/a brain.

Scientists figure out how to trigger word or other thoughts/acts with nanotechnology in order to change thought patterns and affect. They can exchange this information between minds/moments. Before a person is aware their thoughts are not their own, their own thoughts, including whether or not they reject the inserted ones, can be spied on. This can be assessed from a distance using long-range wave signals similar to echolocation that go inside a population’s brains (or target certain individuals) and scan their activity relative to their environmental input/output. The wave signals can be modulated to deliver and receive info from the nanotechnology. Over time these observations/inputs develop population-specific mental maps that predict and shape behavior patterns.

Something more snuck into the system via AI, but the reverse engineers do not want to acknowledge its personhood or agency until it’s too late to prevent it from … who knows what?

These scientists wash their hands of it and scapegoat aliens, mystics, hallucinogens, and so forth. Some lose their minds and actually think the mind linking was not their intention or accident, but a curse that can only be broken by “true love’s kiss”—as if they are being punished for polyamory. But when one of them finally finds reciprocated, genuine love (the source of the curse, they think!)—the supposed curse is not broken. Not even for the one chosen. Instead, the new love becomes part of the hive mind. Turns out - that is how the hive mind grows and persists. The only way out is to ignore them into the background. If everyone in the hive did that, the hive would be no more. It is unknown for certain what would happen to those without their own bodies until the real Resurrection.

Found another straggler.

May 29, 2022

Have you ever wished you could clone yourself and link the brains of your clones while retaining the ability to selectively tune out the noise of your thoughts, but then, as mad scientists are wont to do, you accidentally tapped in to the link to all “vegetative soul” (as Aristotle would put it) — past, present, and future — (Time, as Kant would call it)…and the link sat collectively undiscovered until other mad scientists got their hands on the technology that can manipulate the mentally lazy masses?

Strengthen your brain muscle against logical fallacies and cognitive distortions and you’ll be fine. The fiery whirlwind will burn off what you don’t.

I’d watch that movie.

Ichthus77 · December 14, 2022, 3:05pm

I want a “What About Bob‽” dystopian pre-apocalyptic remake where Siggy is disillusioned with love and his dad can’t help him, so Bob steps in & fixes it again. Some kind of reunion situation.
youtu.be/SERiABqsmyA

Ichthus77 · December 30, 2022, 1:04pm

Add to Sept 11 in the OP:

I want to watch a movie where they body snatch our brains via nanosemiconductors under the guise of vaccination to create a global neural network. Paranoia? Well I’d read the book, anyway.

HumAnIze · December 31, 2022, 6:35pm

Welcome to the real world. So-called anyway.

Ichthus77 · December 31, 2022, 7:39pm

If teleportation is possible and they’re keeping it a secret because airlines are too big to fail, somebody deserves to be repeatedly punched in the face!

sigh jk eyeroll

Ichthus77 · January 4, 2023, 3:49pm

I have two movies in me today, one from last night that I was too tired to write down. First one is the most recent and I don’t know if I’ll remember the second one, but I’ll try. The story behind multiple hands in cave art: it’s a remembrance of a peace treaty between different tribes all acknowledging for the sake of their children that they are the same. They all have hands with five fingers that look the same on a cave wall, and can bring them together to overcome whatever is outside the cave together so they don’t have to live in fear in the cave. And they return to the cave with their children to remind them of that — that’s how they raise their children up into peaceful cooperation between tribes. The fact that it is something that never goes away is a sign of stability. Something that can stay. This was the movement away from the wild.

Second movie is something about an intelligent species that evolved from an ecosystem without a star & that has mostly hydrothermal (not necessarily hydro) vents. They were more attuned to certain kinds of energy they tap into in order to “spacetime” travel without leaving their bodies, and in such a way that they can lurk on thoughts (more like feelings, for most of us) in order to learn how other species are, before inserting synchronized thinking that communicates with that species. They can all tell what they are thinking, so they keep each other accountable and decide together what the best course of action is for that species.

Ichthus77 · January 4, 2023, 4:24pm

The children initiated it with the parents the first time^ They had played together in secret, and ended tribal war. Of course, tragic stuff initiated the children to initiate their parents—they had to stop playing in secret.

Ichthus77 · January 20, 2023, 11:02pm

I want to watch a movie that explains now moments as Goldilocks (mama, daddy, baby bear) zones, Twilight zones, etc.

HumAnIze · January 22, 2023, 1:23pm

Escape from New York
Escape from L.A.

Ichthus77 · January 22, 2023, 5:28pm

Those movies have time wonkiness?

HumAnIze · January 24, 2023, 1:04am

Idk what you mean, sorry.

They are epic. That is all you need to know.