And it backfires in the worst possible way.
youtube.com/watch?v=LltnLzLXs7U
Media bias is seldom so brazen, so disgusting. Why did this hard news reporter respond like she’d just licked a corpse? She wanted a clip of Trump supporters talking about the David Duke issue, and that’s exactly what she got. And yet…somehow…I sense she was less than content.
It is this kind of transparently ridiculous behavior that drives people to Trump in droves. I bet he got 10,000 votes from this.
Dennis Rodman came out in support of Donald Trump… it’s really hard to play the race game this time around. Think most people know there is a difference between building a wall to keep out illegals, and people who are citizens here. My ancestors are Pennsylvania Dutch, we didn’t feel squeezed out or repressed during WW1 or WW2. Its no different today… if your a Muslim in America, no candidate is after you, unless your a member of a notorious mosque FBI keeps getting Intel on… but this goes for crazy Christian churches, which almost certainly outnumber mosques, or athirst groups, such as Joker’s hypothetical group, obviously it would be monitored. Doesn’t mean there is a war on whites or crazy bushmen.
I’m amazed enough people fall for these arguments. I hate it when we have groups voting on the basis of racial prejudice, be it KKK or Black Panthers, it seems like a waste of democracy to me. Should be one man per vote, and they should consider who they want on the candidates merits, preferably from seeing each side…
I don’t want to go to a Trump rally, but would hardly be shocked to see blacks there. I recall when I was stationed in Alaska, while Sarah Palin was still governor, the retired guys who ran the state Republican party were all black. Was shocking to me then because I accepted the left’s stereotype still then, but they made it clear they had their own damn opinions and outlook, and they are more or less in charge of the show up there. I think you’ll see this increasingly across the nation. Eventually blacks are going to diversify across the country, not vote just for Democrats, but for the parties and independents who get out there and win them over.
There is no damn reason why a whole race should vote blindly as a bloc, known 12 years in advance which party they will uniformly vote for… that’s the disturbing thing. But I’m seeing this less and less a issue each election, more and more ate taking elections and politics seriously, getting a feel for candidates. It really is how it should be ideally. I don’t want to see race as a devisive issue… but if it is, at least think logically about it… maybe electing the same whites from the old slave owner party to continue funding your slums and unemployment is a stupid thing to do… after a hundred years of this bullshit, I would take a chance in shaking things up by campaigning for someone else… doesn’t have to be Republican… could be a different party on the state level nobody ever heard of… you yourself can run, whatever… don’t be the umpthteenth generation to fall for that same old scam again. Civil War set men free, but you gotta be proactive and jealous of your rights, constantly examining society and making pushes to better it if you want to be fully American. If you don’t do this, whatever your race or economic status is, your a slave. If you make a effort to be heard, to encourage change, your more likely to effect change. This is best done when you keep politicians on a shirt leash. When you demand better reporting from the media (this clip in the OP is embarrassing).
I really am tired of hearing about race. I want to hear about America, our communities, ideas. I live in a mixed neighborhood, black issues really aren’t different from white here. Less drugs, better police, fix the potholes, end corruption. It be really fucked up if all blacks voted for Democrats, and everyone else voted more spread out. I don’t think this occurs that much here anymore unless your newly arrived from another state. Politics is taken increasingly more seriously here.
This from the guy who thinks that Fox news is something other than a propaganda outlet.
i’m not going to claim Trump is a racist (though racists certainly like him better than anyone running for president in a good long while), but the notion that he can’t be racist because he was endorsed by Dennis Rodman - best buddies with Kim Jong Un of N. Korea - made me laugh out loud and spit coffee all over my desk. This is the way Trump supporters think. And by the way, this:
msn.com/en-us/news/politics/ … ailsignout
The further claim that “it’s really hard to play the race game this time around” is downright delusional. It hasn’t been so easy to play the race game with a Republican presidential candidate in a really, really long time. In fact, the whole “i support Donal Trump” is based in wishful thinking that makes Bernie’s supporters with their hopes for a single payer healthcare system - or Obama’s supporters back in '08 with their hopes for bipartisan reconciliation - look like diehard realists. “Trump is a good candidate, he’ll be ok, really - everyone stop worrying - he’s not bad”. Like i always say: denial is not just a river in Egypt.
Trump supporters are racist.
Here I’ve got to be in full agreement with you. This is precisely the sort thread that a liberal would start complaining about Fox news coverage of the left.
But then uccisore is a political objectivist. Even if only as I understand the meaning of that word.
An objectivist [as I understand it] is so fiercely embedded in the “one of us/one of them” mentality, they don’t even recognize either the irony or the hypocrisy embedded in an OP like this.
Unless of course I’m wrong.
But I don’t think so.
All the lefties in the room can’t bare the discomfort of even watching that link, let alone commenting on it. Beautiful. I love it. “Quick! Bring Up Fox News! It’s the only way to make the hurting stop!”
Anyway, on to the reasonable response.
It’s never hard to play the race card if you really want to. I’m sure plenty of Herman Caine and Ben Carson supporters have been called racist for disagreeing with Obama.
People fall for these arguments first and foremost because they want to. Very few people are looking at a candidate and forming a critical appraisal independent of the (R) or (D) next to their name. They see that, and then they are just waiting for a reason to be told the person with the wrong letter is The Worst. In primaries it’s a little more complicated, a little more honest. A lot more fun. But I still think you have a majority that forms their opinion extremely early in the process, and is then open to any sort of preposterous nonsense that confirms it.
That’s why this video was such an insight. The clip played was perfectly reasonable- that guy expresses the sort of sentiment we could use a lot more of, and I don’t think many people would in good sense disagree with it. But the news anchor was horrified. She clearly felt like she had to apologize for briefly, accidentally presenting the news.
Donald trump is racist and does appeal to the racist crowd like
david duke, head of the KKK, which has endorsed Trump.
Of course not all of trump supporters are racist, but he has that
crowd pretty well in his corner.
Kropotkin
This is why the conservatives already lost and became cuckservatives. Racism (the belief that races are different and thus should be treated differently) is considered wrong.
It’s only a matter of time before they are exterminated completely. The, so called, ‘conservatives’ in the next decade will take it for granted that a man with a cock is actually a woman if he (she) says so. In the decade after that they will agree that zoophilia is simply a love for animals, and that as long as nobody (and no animal) is hurt, people should be allowed to fuck whatever, or get fucked by whatever and zoophilism (discrimination against zoophiles) will be considered the next racism, a horrible form of bigotry to be done away with.
I can already see the ‘conservatives’ in 2040, celebrating how the other side attempted to portray their candidate’s supporters as zoophilists, and oh boy did the supporters prove them wrong about that!
This is the definition of cuckservatism - To constantly give into the demands of the socially liberal and allow politics and thus the world to become increasingly liberal, and not in any positive meaning of the word either.
Also, like half of the first top 10 threads in this subforum are about Trump…
The “evil” raycysts are coming to town…
(Hide the children.)
Right, like bringing up Fox News here is trivial.
On the other hand, the hard-core True Believers [on either the left or the right] have basically programmed themselves [or been programmed by others] to think like this. All. The. Time.
In other words, if we do it, it is misunderstood, if they do it, it’s a sin against God.
And, over at Fox News, who would ever doubt that God – the Christian God – is on the side of the conservatives.
It’s called implicit racism. These conservatives many of them don’t even realize they are racists. There is institutional racism throughout American society, and it is based on both implicit attitudes of racism as well as simple ignorance.
Trump feeds on this implicit racism and ignorance. It represents a regression in thinking. No serious philosopher would condone racist views, explicit or implicit.
What is important is to work for eliminating institutional and implicit racism from society. Idiot-criminals like Trump only make it worse by stoking the fires of fear and bigotry. Racism is real and perpetuated by a society full of insane people just like Trump, essentially these “conservatives” are anti-philosophers. It’s actually somewhat funny they have so little self-awareness to understand their own implicit attitudes and biases, and are forced to ignore so many signs of disparities and racial gaps in quality of life, pay, treatment by police, poverty and education, treatment by the media and Hollywood, all of which issues only keep the racism going from one generation to the next.
I just found out that the American Nazi party has endorsed Donald Trump.
Well, that just changes everything about Trump being a racist.
If the Nazi’s love trump, how can he be a racist?
Kropotkin
Lol.
Individuals are culturally-socially constructed. Looking at people and making explicit or implicit judgment about them based on their skin color is just fucking stupid and juvenile. We aren’t animals in the wild battling for our tribe against others, those kind of black and white surface distinctions are irrelevant and quite detrimental to the progress of a rational human species.
Racists (conservatives included) often cite statistics of crime and poverty being higher among non-whites; when the very fact that crime and poverty are higher in these groups reveals the institutional racism that is alive and well in America.
If there is statistically significant chance that children and adults of a certain racial group are going to grow up in conditions with more crime and povert and less chances for quality education then obviously that group is going to fare worse in succeeding generations than groups who are growing up in generally better conditions. But racists aren’t able to think on that level and simply reduce such differences to race alone, thus begging the question and demonstrating their own idiotic insanity.
As a nihilist I could care fucking less about it all. Want to be racist? Ok. Want to be a multiracial and multicultural anti racist? That’s fine also.
For me it’s not a one or the other only issue. I am not sure why others follow that approach.
K: there is a reason why being a nihilist is a young person’s game. Once you are mature, being a
nihilist is silly. A whole lot of a young person’s game, Nihilism, for example, is no longer of
any interest, once you reach a certain age.
Kropotkin
Delusion.
